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Title: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: ADY on 27 March, 2008, 05:31:58 PM
         MCN (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/videos/2007/july/jun2607dunloptyretestvideo/?&R=EPI-92277)
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: Dodger on 27 March, 2008, 05:47:17 PM
 :460:

the video supports the view that this is a good tyre in the dry and the wet.

Unfortunatley whilst it performed the best of all tyres there are a couple of key points, one in the video the other not

1. The tyre used was a test tyre not a production model and this was against the other manufacturers off the shelf items.  Will they keep the spec the same?  Is the test tyre affordable or will it be dumbed down.

2. whilst it was grippy, what mileage will you get out of it?  After all there are stickier tyres out there than the PR2 and 021, but they dont last as long.

All in all one thing the video does do in my book is put PR2's ahead of 021's as it was the best wet production tyre.  If it is good in the wet, I can live with it in the dry too.

Nice one
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: andyscbf1000 on 27 March, 2008, 07:51:16 PM
I saw this Vid as well when doing my little bit of research.  Agree completely with Dodger's comments.  Dunlop have not had an exactly brilliant rep recently on road sport tyres and they were easily the least helpful on giving tech feedback for my research.  I saw that somebody has just put them on their Biffer, as indeed someone else has just put my marmite tyre, the Conti Road Attack on theirs. 

I've promised real life feedback on my new PR2's, in a couple of months time now we may get feedback on the Road Smarts and Road Attacks as well ?

Looking promising though.

Andy
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: badapple on 27 March, 2008, 09:38:42 PM
Got to agree with you that a health measure of cynicism is required at this stage. A specially selected tyre optimized for a manufacturers own track can be a far cry from a run of the mill production job used on a public road. It could still turn out to be a great tyre though.

Love my PR2s and it will take a lot to persuade me away from them.    :098:
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: andyinvienna on 28 March, 2008, 07:47:00 AM
October is a little late, PR2 still is looking the best that is available now, I am not fast enough in the dry to worry about point something of a second, and I want the best in the wet I can get, so there we go any way I bet that by the time next spring comes there will be a PR3!!!
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: andyinvienna on 06 April, 2008, 08:54:16 AM
Check this out,

New Dunlop Roadsmart tyre launch

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Dunlop roadsmart tyre
October 3, 2007 - Kenny Pryde

There were high speed laps of the track as well as much slower laps of the wet circuit and slalom tests and another handling test during which journalists were able to ride Bridgestone BT-021 and Michelin Pilot Road 2 tyres in the same market sector. Never has a tyre company laid itself open to such scrutiny with a new tyre. And Dunlop was right to be confident, the new Roadsmart is a very good tyre.

The Roadsmart uses the same Triple tread construction as the sportier Qualifier RR tyre, featuring a softer compound on the shoulders and a more durable compound in the centre of the tyre. In addition, there's a new tread pattern for improved water dispersal, a new compound, new profile and a different carcass from the tyre it replaces, the D220ST.

Journalists were allowed more time and able to do more miles in different conditions than in any tyre test in living memory and, from a PR point of view if nothing else, it was a massive success. With road riding in wet and dry conditions, wet and track dry riding on track and a handling circuit session, Dunlop wasn't hiding. And, in the end, it was right to be confident. If you are in the market for a sports-touring tyre, you might as well start haggling with your local Dunlop dealer for some Roadsmarts. Truly.

And, in case you are interested, the Michelin Pilot Road 2 was second in most peoples' books, with slightly less feel in the wet, while the Bridgestone BT-021 was quicker turning on the dry track but nowhere near as good in the wet and much harsher over road bumps. Like I said, haggle for a deal on the Dunlops.

For unabashed propaganda, check out www.dunlop-tire.com and,yes, I know that's an American spelling, but what can you do? Guess which market buys more tyres?

ADMIN EDIT: That link above is incorrect. Try this one: http://www.dunloptyres.co.uk/bike/

DUNLOP ROADSMART Launch - Superbike Mag (http://www.superbike.co.uk/products/tyres/superbike_news_from_Mireval_on_the_new_Dunlop_Roadsmart_tyre_news_147538.html)
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: andyinvienna on 08 April, 2008, 09:04:18 PM
Get my new roadsmarts on Friday, hope the hype was right  :084: :007:
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: steven on 30 April, 2008, 09:06:46 PM
check out the new BIKE mag , these got a great write up
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: ADY on 22 May, 2008, 10:47:24 PM
I have just fitted a set of road smarts and all i can say is "wow"and i haven't even scrubbed them in yet just a 50 mile steady ride to get the shiny surface off and iam well impressed . The rubber seems softer than my old pilot roads witch is a good thing for grip and traction but i got good milage from the pilots 6000 miles from the rear and 12000 mile from the front and i wonder what i will get from these new ones time will tell i suppose . Tomorrow we are off to southern Ireland for the weekend and i am expecting all kinds of roads and weather and i will see just how good these new tyres are .Ady.
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: andyinvienna on 23 May, 2008, 10:17:33 AM
*Originally Posted by ADY [+]
I have just fitted a set of road smarts and all i can say is "wow"and i haven't even scrubbed them in yet just a 50 mile steady ride to get the shiny surface off and iam well impressed . The rubber seems softer than my old pilot roads witch is a good thing for grip and traction but i got good milage from the pilots 6000 miles from the rear and 12000 mile from the front and i wonder what i will get from these new ones time will tell i suppose . Tomorrow we are off to southern Ireland for the weekend and i am expecting all kinds of roads and weather and i will see just how good these new tyres are .Ady.

 :0461:  :460: At last someone else has them, I thought I was shouting in the dark about them, I have 5000km/3100 miles and they just  get better, going out in the rain is a better experience, Good choice
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: midlife c on 23 May, 2008, 02:51:38 PM
Andy and Ady

Can you tell me if you are still happy with your road smarts.

In a different thread people were aiming towards PR2s but the road smart seems to be the flavour of the month here.

I want tyres that will aslt for me as well as keep me safe. When I changed from the original B75 (I Think) to the 21s I realy did not like them but they have grown on me. However they do not like white lines and am not certain that in the wet they are any better than my old tyres. Think I want to change as I am soon going on a trip through Spain and France.

Any help from you both would be great

Graham
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: andyinvienna on 24 May, 2008, 11:00:25 AM
*Originally Posted by midlife c [+]
Andy and Ady

Can you tell me if you are still happy with your road smarts.

In a different thread people were aiming towards PR2s but the road smart seems to be the flavour of the month here.

I want tyres that will aslt for me as well as keep me safe. When I changed from the original B75 (I Think) to the 21s I realy did not like them but they have grown on me. However they do not like white lines and am not certain that in the wet they are any better than my old tyres. Think I want to change as I am soon going on a trip through Spain and France.

Any help from you both would be great

Graham

Hi Graham,
You would have no problems fitting the PR2 or the Roadsmarts, I am sure that you would like them both, I have not heard of anyone that has gone from PR2 to roadsmarts, the PR2 has been around much longer and has a good following with Biffer owners, I love my roadsmarts, I had PR1's before and I think these tyres are better than them even though I thought they were very good too, Roadsmarts are a little cheaper, but Michelin are offering 20 fuel voucher, which ever you get you will have a good tyre.
Andy
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: Trefoil on 24 May, 2008, 03:10:21 PM
If anybody is going to buy PR2's it might be an idea to buy them before the end of this month (May) as the Mitchelin offer of getting a 20 fuel voucher when you purchase PR2's expires at the end of this month.

Tref
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: Sonic on 25 May, 2008, 10:50:47 AM
How do you get the fuel voucher? I have just order a new front PR2.
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: Sonic on 25 May, 2008, 10:56:33 AM
*Originally Posted by Sonic [+]
How do you get the fuel voucher? I have just order a new front PR2.
Cancell my last found it on Google.
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: Trefoil on 25 May, 2008, 12:53:10 PM
Hi Sonic

The receipt has to be dated no later than 31st May 2008. You can download the claim form from Michelin web site http://www.michelin.co.uk (http://www.michelin.co.uk) and go to the Two Wheel section and there should be a big advert half way down the page

The claim form has to be submiited by the 30th June

Tref
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: Sonic on 25 May, 2008, 06:34:07 PM
Thanks Trefoil I had found the voucher & downloaded it.
I have also ordered a rear tyre as well, to make up the set.
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: midlife c on 25 May, 2008, 07:00:07 PM
Thanks Andy

my local Honda dealer is trying to keep my on the B021s but I will change. The only problem is you cannot get the rear tyre for the dunlops without a long wait, so I have been told by them so may have to go for the PR2s as I need them for my trip through Spain and France.

So will use the voucher which will help as my Audi has managed to fit 80 of fuel

Graham
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: Trefoil on 25 May, 2008, 07:04:28 PM
I was seriously looking at Roadsmarts but the motorcycle tyre dealers I spoke to said there is a delay on the rear from some reason. But I think Ady has just had a set fitted in the last week or so - there must be some about somewhere

I am very happy with the PR2's so far.

Tref
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: andyinvienna on 26 May, 2008, 08:50:12 AM
*Originally Posted by midlife c [+]
Thanks Andy

my local Honda dealer is trying to keep my on the B021s but I will change. The only problem is you cannot get the rear tyre for the dunlops without a long wait, so I have been told by them so may have to go for the PR2s as I need them for my trip through Spain and France.

So will use the voucher which will help as my Audi has managed to fit 80 of fuel

Graham

I had the same thing with a couple of dealers "I do not have them in sir but we can do a good deal on some Bridgstones   :001: "  well I guess that says a lot when the dealers are trying desperately to ofload there stock that fewer riders want, time bridgstone came out with a new tyre me thinks  :mfrlol:
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: Sonic on 26 May, 2008, 11:04:43 AM


I had the same thing with a couple of dealers "I do not have them in sir but we can do a good deal on some Bridgstones   :001: "  well I guess that says a lot when the dealers are trying desperately to ofload there stock that fewer riders want, time bridgstone came out with a new tyre me thinks  :mfrlol:
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Same here he said we dont stock Michelin too expensive, but I have Bridgstones on the shelf! Went elsewhere.
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: ADY on 27 May, 2008, 06:25:02 PM
Well i am back after a 1335 mile ride across Wales and Ireland and i am still impressed with the tyres all of the time we wore two up and most of the time we wore loaded with luggage top box (heavy), saddle bags, and a tank bag and we never slipped or slided at any time the bike just rolled nicely around every bend and with no hart stopping moments . High winds damp dodgy tarmac no problem even at speed . The tyres just did the job they are supposed to do and made me feel confident . Would i buy another set Yes i would .Ady.
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: vasiamile on 20 August, 2008, 09:46:28 AM
*Originally Posted by ADY [+]
I have just fitted a set of road smarts and all i can say is "wow"and i haven't even scrubbed them in yet just a 50 mile steady ride to get the shiny surface off and iam well impressed . The rubber seems softer than my old pilot roads witch is a good thing for grip and traction but i got good milage from the pilots 6000 miles from the rear and 12000 mile from the front and i wonder what i will get from these new ones time will tell i suppose . Tomorrow we are off to southern Ireland for the weekend and i am expecting all kinds of roads and weather and i will see just how good these new tyres are .Ady.
hi ADY.i have this tyres and i am very happy for this.for now i have with the roadsmart 7000 miles and the front is like new.the rear have another 3-4 k miles.good miage!
Title: Re: Tyre Testing The New Dunlops
Post by: ADY on 20 August, 2008, 07:27:55 PM
Hi vasiamile you made a good choice and i an still happy with mine ,Mind you it must be terrable riding around in all that sunshine and super grippe tarmac you might never find out how well your tyres perform when the weather is cold wet and damright miserable but never mind i can just remind you now and again , Happy sunny biking overthere in sunny Grease .Ady.

PS did i sound just a bit jealous .