CBF1000

CBF1000 => General Maintenance, Servicing, and Mechanical => Topic started by: Dcan17 on 16 June, 2020, 05:08:31 PM

Title: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: Dcan17 on 16 June, 2020, 05:08:31 PM
Wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a new fuel filter. I can't seem to find one anywhere and I can't justify a 1000 dollar fuel pump over a fuel filter. Someone on here have one for sale?
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: FLIZ on 16 June, 2020, 06:39:17 PM
Have a look on e bay for KEMSO Fuel pump for a Honda cbf1000. Around 30 Sterling.
Hope this helps.
As far as I know the filter is not replaceable on the standard oem fuel pump.
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: Dcan17 on 16 June, 2020, 07:15:53 PM
I have already replaced pump but still fail fuel flow test which has led me to believe the filter is plugged up. From hours of research, it would seem a cb1100 shares the same fuel filter ( 16011-mgc-010) however the part is on back order everywhere I've contacted. I've contacted companies in the states as well as all over Europe. Bike runs ok up till about 6k and seems to run out of fuel. Getting 100ml on fuel flow test so I know I have issues. Looks like I'm eating a 1000$ bill for a new pump assembly... :172:
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: Shed on 16 June, 2020, 08:44:55 PM
Any good for you? Pump & filter 60.00 or $102 Canadian dollars.
I've fitted two of these, one to a Biffer, the other to a Blackbird. Both absolutely fine & no issues.

https://www.fuelperformance.co.uk/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=5574&search=cbf1000

(Worldwide shipping info: https://www.fuelperformance.co.uk/index.php?route=information/information&information_id=9)


Also good practice to replace the rubber gasket between pump and tank while you're in there. Use the old gasket at your own risk. (Gasket part number 17574MFAD00 which is also referred to as the 'packing base').

Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: g5guzzi on 16 June, 2020, 08:56:04 PM
http://www.highflowfuel.com/i-23907978-quantum-intank-efi-fuel-pump-honda-cbf1000-2006-2017.html

Not sure if this is any help it says fuel strainers included.
this firm is in California i think

Malc
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: Dcan17 on 16 June, 2020, 08:59:59 PM
I have replaced fuel pump already with the quantum fuel pump. And the prefilter for the pump. I'm looking for the part that houses the regulator and filter. I have a new packing for existing pump already.
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: Shed on 16 June, 2020, 09:04:08 PM
*Originally Posted by Dcan17 [+]
I'm looking for the part that houses the regulator and filter.

 :084: You didn't actually say that in your first two posts.
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: Dcan17 on 16 June, 2020, 09:19:27 PM
@Shed-

" From hours of research, it would seem a cb1100 shares the same fuel filter ( 16011-mgc-010)"

However, i did give a part number for part I am seeking.
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: Shed on 16 June, 2020, 09:40:27 PM
*Originally Posted by Dcan17 [+]
@Shed-

" From hours of research, it would seem a cb1100 shares the same fuel filter ( 16011-mgc-010)"

However, i did give a part number for part I am seeking.


@Dcan17

*Originally Posted by Dcan17 [+]
Wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a new fuel filter. I can't seem to find one anywhere and I can't justify a 1000 dollar fuel pump over a fuel filter. Someone on here have one for sale?
You're asking for a fuel filter here.

*Originally Posted by Dcan17 [+]
it would seem a cb1100 shares the same fuel filter ( 16011-mgc-010)

Oh, my apologies, I (incorrectly) assumed the part number you posted was for a CB1100 fuel filter.  " cb1100 shares the same fuel filter ( 16011-mgc-010)" - as you didn't mention that the part number you gave is actually an assembly.


The part number you gave, fits 13 bike models, is easily available in Europe, approx $580 dollars inc shipping to Canada.

I'd be inclined to go to a breakers yard, much cheaper.
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: g5guzzi on 16 June, 2020, 10:06:20 PM

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This firm in Michigan allegedly has 2 available on an ebay listing
 Not sure how to do a link.
there are 2 other firms listing this part number on ebay in the states


Malc
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: g5guzzi on 16 June, 2020, 10:13:20 PM

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Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: Dcan17 on 17 June, 2020, 01:43:29 AM
@g5guzzi

I have contacted them already but they don't actually have stock. I actually ordered one and they emailed me to tell me it was on back order.

 Seems the whole world has no stock of fuel pump assemblies or fuel filters. I love the bike but it may be time to change up for something else.
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: g5guzzi on 19 June, 2020, 08:02:56 PM
Hi Dcan17
just had a ebay link come from Poland
item no 291778243859 complete cbf1000 fuel pump
304 +postage. says he ships world wide.

Malc
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: Dcan17 on 19 June, 2020, 09:51:06 PM
Thanks malc. I'll look into it if my current plan doesn't work out. I found a cb1100 shares the same filter so I ordered a used pump from a wrecked 2015. Ill post once i see what the result will be.
Title: Re: Fuel pump/fuel filter
Post by: Dcan17 on 30 June, 2020, 04:48:06 AM
So I figured I'd post my results up here so hopefully it helps someone out with similar symptoms.

A brief description of my issue was I had no power above 6krpm. Any gear didn't matter. Most noticeable in 6th going for a pass on the highway. It idled fine and reved to 6k fine.

So my findings were all pointing to a bad fuel pump. I tested as many sensors as I could without special tools by following service manual and found no issues with any. I did a fuel flow test and I achieved approximately 125mL/10seconds. So i problem I figured was low fuel delivery.

So I took pump apart and replaced pump with a quantum fuel pump but used existing parts from original pump( level indicator, regulator,etc). Did a fuel flow test and got approx 140mL / 10 seconds. Wasn't the 189 that was stated but I figured I'd try. The bike ran great for a 600km ride in the mountains and I figured it was sorted. A few days later riding to work, the problem resurfaced.  :172:

So I after hours of searching this forum someone mentioned item 30 on Fowler's website and son of a gun it showed a filter for the white housing pump inserts into. I had an aha moment.

So here comes the fun part, the part is on backorder in Australia, UK, US, Canada, Europe. I ordered from every continent only to be told it's on backorder and who knows when it will be in stock again. So my search continues. After scouring parts diagrams and part number searches, I found a 2015 cb1100 shares the same filter housing and I located a wrecked cb1100 in the states being parted. I ordered the full pump and took out the filter, installed into mine and I'm getting way more than 189mL in 10 secs. So problem solved.

Point of the speech is to try to encourage people to not spend 1000$ on a new pump but rather use your own and save some money.

Parts cost:

-quantum fuel pump = 70$ US
-used fuel pump from cb1100= 150$US.
-tank packing gasket=35$US

So as you can see if you can find the filter or a low mile used filter, you can save money.

Thanks for reading and I hope this helps someone.  :001: