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CBF1000 => Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring => Topic started by: Brerpatch on 30 September, 2019, 05:15:41 PM

Title: Twin headlamps anyone?
Post by: Brerpatch on 30 September, 2019, 05:15:41 PM
Hello gentlemen.
I have tried to find some info on this subject but I`m probably not using the correct word pattern  :015:.
Has anyone tried to link the headlamp bulbs together, I am aware that this could cause problems for the loom, as in cooking it and maybe the stator is not up to it either but I am running LED bulbs, so this should not be an issue.
Any thoughts or guidance to the correct area would be very much appreciated
Title: Re: Twin headlamps anyone?
Post by: Art on 30 September, 2019, 07:51:40 PM
Can't be done with the stock lenses.
Title: Re: Twin headlamps anyone?
Post by: Milord on 30 September, 2019, 07:52:15 PM
I've managed to find two places so far that sell modules for twin headlight setups. There could be more, or if you're so technologically inclined you could make your own at a much cheaper price.
I'm no expert but I wouldnt recommend hardwiring them together. For starters the main beam will be too bright for everyday use, it would make starting your bike that little bit harder for your battery and you might even run in to problems at the MOT centre if your main beam switch doesn't work as it should.

Here's what I've found:
https://tripageled.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=175

https://www.doubletronics.com/english.html
Title: Re: Twin headlamps anyone?
Post by: Art on 01 October, 2019, 01:33:33 PM
Neither of those options make allowance for the lens. The main beam remains as a main beam, even at 40% it faila the MOT and dazzling oncoming vehicles
Title: Re: Twin headlamps anyone?
Post by: Piper on 02 October, 2019, 07:39:00 PM
I have adjusted my main beam light so it points down like the dip beam. Only use both beams when I feel vulnerable and don't use the bike much in the dark on unlit roads. Have passed several MOTs with this arrangement.
Pete
Title: Re: Twin headlamps anyone?
Post by: Shed on 03 October, 2019, 11:59:16 PM
*Originally Posted by Milord [+]

https://www.doubletronics.com/english.html

+1  :0461: Fitted & worked faultlessly for for years. Looks far better than stock 'one-eye'.
Title: Re: Twin headlamps anyone?
Post by: Shed on 04 October, 2019, 12:07:01 AM
*Originally Posted by Art [+]
Neither of those options make allowance for the lens. The main beam remains as a main beam, even at 40% it faila the MOT and dazzling oncoming vehicles

Disagree with you on this one Art, last 3 MOT's all passed without any issue whatsoever. Whilst the lens may indeed not be quite pedantically 'legit', the 40% on lightbulb is no more dazzling than any of the ludicrously bright headlights of cars you see out there everyday.

I've previously posted some pics of before & after fitting on here somewhere, but can't be chewed looking now as it's bedtime. zzzz
Title: Re: Twin headlamps anyone?
Post by: Art on 04 October, 2019, 07:28:38 AM
Fair point Shed, I'd disagree with me on that basis too. I know my dipped beam fails to meet the requirements of the MOT but it gets passed, without advisory, year after year after year. For 'it fails the MOT' read 'it fails the requirements of the MOT' whether or not the MOT tester recognises or acknowledges that is another matter. 

To be perfectly clear the MOT requirements for headlamps, aim criteria aside, include 'if the light intensity of the lamp is significantly reduced, it should be failed'.

Source:- https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-motorcycles
Title: Re: Twin headlamps anyone?
Post by: Shed on 04 October, 2019, 07:59:43 AM
Thankfully all of the bike specific MOT garages I've dealt with use common sense when applying the written rules of government pen pushers. The MOT itself is a complete joke anyway, and far more a cash cow than a legitimate 'caring' entity. Thankfully most of the testers are bikers themselves with a biker mentality, rather than a pedantic letter follower.
And the people who create these labyrinths of wordiness? These people are absolutely never wrong are they?!
Title: Re: Twin headlamps anyone?
Post by: Art on 04 October, 2019, 04:32:23 PM
Amen to that.
Title: Re: Twin headlamps anyone?
Post by: Rev Ken on 07 October, 2019, 08:27:57 PM
*Originally Posted by Shed [+]
Thankfully all of the bike specific MOT garages I've dealt with use common sense when applying the written rules of government pen pushers. The MOT itself is a complete joke anyway, and far more a cash cow than a legitimate 'caring' entity. Thankfully most of the testers are bikers themselves with a biker mentality, rather than a pedantic letter follower.
And the people who create these labyrinths of wordiness? These people are absolutely never wrong are they?!
I agree that the latest update has got some serious mistakes eg an HID upgrade - an aid to safety against ultra bright car headlights - is a fail, even if they have a correct beam pattern. When I complained they sent me an old paper showing how they scattered light, while still allowing LED conversions, some of which are worse! They also failed my bike after I fitted a conversion that flashed the brake light on heavy braking, but didn't repeat it if reapplied soon after. ie a 'flickering brake light is a fail'. That was written in my day when I was involved in the MOT regs as there weren't any electronics and a flickering light meant a bad earth. Pity this isn't recognised as another aid to road safety.

All I can say is I revert to my HID lights after the MOT and after checking they meet the MOT beam pattern and aim. If anybody does challenge this I'm prepared to make a fuss in court!