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CBF1000 => CBF1000 - General Discussion => Topic started by: Bluefox on 17 August, 2019, 10:57:01 AM

Title: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Bluefox on 17 August, 2019, 10:57:01 AM
Just a quick heads up,went into our local Halfords this morning to pick up some wet and dry and noticed all of their Haynes motorcycle manuals are on sale at £5 each as they are stopping selling them.Bought a Biffer one to leave in my luggage,stupid not to at that price.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Art on 17 August, 2019, 11:44:48 AM
Grab a bargain before they all end up on eBay for a tenner
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: NJD on 19 August, 2019, 08:24:08 PM
May be store specific.

Got the chance to visit two different stores today and stock prices varied: one had a couple of manuals for £5 and the other had a handful (but with no stock for some).

At best Halfords only ever really stock one of any given manual until it sells -- from what I can gather -- but as Art says might be worth getting a few and selling them on if that's your thing.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Bluefox on 19 August, 2019, 09:22:06 PM
Market Harborough store has about 15 different bike Haynes Manuals all a fiver,they are finishing selling them so I suppose it's down to what individual store has left in stock.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: moayling on 20 August, 2019, 11:47:35 AM
Haynes factory at Sparkford has closed down. The museum is still open and worth a visit if you’re in the area
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: pedro on 20 August, 2019, 02:29:02 PM
So in effect, does this mean Haynes manuals are not being produced any more? That'd be a shame.

I know that some people don't rate them. But although they are no substitute for a factory workshop manual, they are very handy and a good reference guide to how to remove something, where to find something and what specifications the vehicle has (plug gaps and torque settings etc). I suppose that it's the throw away society. Things don't get repaired now. In garages, you don't get mechanics, just technicians who plug in a diagnostic tool, read the codes and replace the offending part.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: moayling on 20 August, 2019, 03:18:52 PM
*Originally Posted by pedro [+]
So in effect, does this mean Haynes manuals are not being produced any more? That'd be a shame.

I know that some people don't rate them. But although they are no substitute for a factory workshop manual, they are very handy and a good reference guide to how to remove something, where to find something and what specifications the vehicle has (plug gaps and torque settings etc). I suppose that it's the throw away society. Things don't get repaired now. In garages, you don't get mechanics, just technicians who plug in a diagnostic tool, read the codes and replace the offending part.

I can’t be sure about that but l pass the factory quite frequently and its been closed for a while now. In the dark recesses of my brain something is telling me that Mr Haynes passed away and there was nobody to take over. I may have made that bit up and someone with more information will be along to correct me.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Art on 20 August, 2019, 06:27:44 PM
May have something to do with Haynes also producing electronic copies of their manuals. Less demand for the paper editions?
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Bluefox on 20 August, 2019, 06:50:04 PM
I would think that may well be the case Art,but when I broke down the other week I was in the back end of nowhere,no internet signal and just enough phone signal to ring the AA on the 3rd attempt.Paper book is always a good back up,and you can always set fire to it if its cold lol.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Art on 21 August, 2019, 11:01:13 AM
I'm not sure how these electronic manuals work my assumption is you can download them to your laptop and/or mobile phone etc. Maybe that's not possible with the Haynes otherwise we'd all be sharing it like the Honda workshop manuals we download which I carry a copy of on my phone. Hopefully its never needed whether I get cold or... lets not go there.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Shed on 21 August, 2019, 11:40:26 AM
So, for £16.99 you get online only access, it states they are not downloadable. You can print out what you want, so I suppose someone with time on their hands could maybe print out the whole manual and then scan & save it as a pdf and then share it - if you really wanted to!

But, check this bit out, it's a yearly subscription. They say it has extras such as colour photos & how-to-videos.
Er, yeah, great, that sounds really exciting Haynes.  :086:

You'll need internet access on whatever device you're using to access the Haynes online manual for info, colour photos, and how-to-videos.

 :084: If you don't have a Haynes online subscription, you could use your device to access the regular internet, er, where you'll have free access to this forum, free access to any amount of colour photos, and free access to er, what's that free video website with tens of millions of free videos of how-to-videos called?
You-want-how-to-videos-Tube? 

Is this the demise of Haynes coming along soon?  :127:


"Our Online Manuals are a one-year subscription and when it comes to the end of your one-year subscription, Haynes will offer you a special deal on renewal, and it will cost you less than £13 to continue using the Online Manual".

"A Haynes Online Manual is our most complete product to date and includes many extra features by comparison with a printed manual. All of the pictures are in full colour, and we’ve added 10 “how to” video guides covering commonly tackled jobs. The Online Manual works on your smartphone, tablet or desktop computer so it is available wherever you are. It is much simpler to use than a digital PDF-based book, with easy-to-use navigation tools that take you straight to your job. If you prefer to work off paper in the workshop, you can print as many sections of the manual as you like. And whenever we update a manual to include the latest information, you’ll receive that free of charge. When it comes to the end of your one-year subscription, Haynes will offer you a special deal on renewal, to allow you to continue using the Online Manual".

Each to their own, but I think I'd stick with an outright bought & paid for hard copy, thanks. A paper hard copy manual in years to come may well be a collectors item of some rarity!


https://haynes.com/en-gb/honda-motorcycle/cbf1000/2006-2010

https://haynes.com/en-gb/faqs

Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Art on 21 August, 2019, 12:14:36 PM
old school paper seems to be the way forward
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Shed on 21 August, 2019, 12:17:52 PM
*Originally Posted by Art [+]
old school paper seems to be the way forward

Indeed.

Plenty on ebay for around £16.00, and one at the moment for just £14.00

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=cbf1000+manual&_sop=15

Paper bargain!
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Art on 21 August, 2019, 12:40:37 PM
eBay is an excellent resource for the likes of Haynes manuals and such, seen one for £7.50 + 3.98 p&p auction starting price or best offer. I'd wager a best offer of £6.02 would win it for £10.00 including p&p. That's if your local Halfords doesn't have a new one for a blue beer voucher (£5.00).

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Haynes-owners-workshop-manual-for-Honda-CB-1000r-Honda-CBF-1000/264436028432?hash=item3d919d9410:g:KvMAAOSwllddWpKV

Not a recommendation so no link provided, Haynes are offering their on-line subscriptions on eBay from £5.99 for 14 days.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: pedro on 22 August, 2019, 12:32:30 AM
I agree, an old style Haynes book is the best thing. Sure, you can have it on your computer and print out the relevant page, but how often does that relevant page say something along the lines of "now remove the XXX. See chapter 4." So it's back to the computer and print out the relevant pages again. More faff than it's worth. And I certainly don't like the idea of paying every year for something I've already bought once.

Progress for progress sake. I wonder if this is a last ditch attempt to eke out a profit from a failing company. What's more, although I have one (book) for my bike, they don't so one for my car, a Land Rover Discovery 4. Most annoying!
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Syramax on 23 August, 2019, 03:51:40 PM
Got one today ,  :460:   cheers
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Bluefox on 23 August, 2019, 07:58:47 PM
Hopefully for £5
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Syramax on 24 August, 2019, 10:33:13 AM
Yeah,£5 :001: but the car ones were still priced at around £16 ?? Perhaps they are stopping selling bike ones but still selling car manuals ?? . I suspect fewer people are doing their own repairs these days due to the ever increasing amount of teknollijee  involved. I for one will not be venturing past simple service type jobs any more .gone are the days of stripping a engine down in the kitchen. :008: