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CBF1000 => Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring => Topic started by: Ianrobbo1 on 27 May, 2019, 02:12:54 PM

Title: Anyone fitted LED headlights
Post by: Ianrobbo1 on 27 May, 2019, 02:12:54 PM
I was wondering if anyone had fitted LED headlights, and what they did about fastening them in the right place, with the huge heat sink and the small spring that you cant fasten because of the heat sink, :003: I've heard various stories about cutting lumps of plastic up to make things fit, but without pretty pictures I'm at a loss to know what to do, has anyone got a "how to" or the pretty pictures that will explain in a simpletons way "me "how it's done please.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted LED headlights
Post by: Scarberian on 30 May, 2019, 03:10:51 AM
I just installed these last week:

https://www.banggood.com/2Pcs-H7-55W-26000LM-6000K-Car-LED-Headlights-Bulb-White-Fog-Lamp-IP68-Waterproof-p-1381474.html?rmmds=myorder&cur_warehouse=CN

They are not any longer than a standard H7 bulb, and I had no trouble fitting them into the socket. Are they any better? I have not ridden after dark yet, so I cannot say. I will say that they were not expensive, but took forever to arrive (>2 months). That's the trouble when shipping from China by mail, I guess. As long as you're not in a hurry, there's very little risk ordering these.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted LED headlights
Post by: raYzerman on 08 July, 2019, 01:27:09 PM
H7's are simple for beam pattern, so most LED's will work.  I use the F2 brand, installed a set yesterday...... The main unit separates from the  mounting plate, so take it apart, install the mounting plate and clip it in with the wire bail.  Next install the main bulb unit..... I slit the rubber caps right across the middle, as the cooling fans need to breathe.... after install pulled the OEM wire and the bulb unit wire out through the slit, then tucked the rubber in around the heat sink.  Sorry, no pics.  Then I connected the driver unit and zip tied the wires so it would sit all neat and tidy.  Works great.
If you're converting an H4/9003 bulb, get the F2's they are one of the latest where the "filaments" most replicate an actual H4 bulb and have the shields to prevent stray light... mostly to give you a proper beam cut-off on low beam.  They can be rotated if necessary if you want an angled beam like most Euro countries, either left or right hand drive.
These are the ones I installed, be sure to specify which type you want H7, H4, etc.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/H7-F2-LED-Headlight-72W-12000LM-Cree-Chips-White-6000K-Driving-Fog-Bulb-Lamps/143055111788?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Title: Re: Anyone fitted LED headlights
Post by: Kamboskid on 11 October, 2019, 02:02:03 PM

I had LED bulbs fited by a local mechanic, makes a difference with the whole brightness thing. Now looking for some crash bars for the front to hang extra lights on, I understand that Honda does not make one for this model, does anyone have knowledge regarding alternatives that will fit?

 thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Anyone fitted LED headlights
Post by: NJD on 11 October, 2019, 04:37:27 PM
*Originally Posted by Kamboskid [+]
alternatives that will fit?

I use these (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBF-1000-2006-2009-Givi-Engine-Bars-Crash-Protectors-Black-CBF1000/132747432656?epid=13017007215&hash=item1ee85d12d0:g:CnAAAOSw4cBbdm83) on my MK1 CBF1000.

Warnings: the front engine mounts, as I recently discovered, are very easy to round off and damage the threads. 12 mm at a thread pitch of 1.25 if you end up having to get a helicoil or thread repair kit. People say they've had to use plusgas etc to get the bolt out in the first place but I must have been lucky since mine came out without issue. Make sure you've got the big metal round spacers inbetween the engine and black frame to take up the vibration and stop the engine moving around.

I installed mine on the front engine mount, tightned the bit between the exhausts (they fit via a connecting piece inbetween the downpipes and engine and used an angle grinder to cut the end of the engine bars off so I didn't have to mount them via the lower engine mount (by the footpegs at the bottom of the bike) just because attempting to undone them, and fit them like that, screams of a world of hurt. I can almost gurantee that my lower engine mounts having been out since being fitted and I do not want to be the one to undo them for such a simple job... so I bodged it to save time and damage.

As above with the front engine mounts the threads can be easily damaged so don't torque them up. I tried recently, after I'd forgot during the install a while ago, and rounded one of them of. Just use a 3/8 ratchet and go by hand until it feels tight and then come back to them if they loosen (use a marker on the head of the bolt / frame to identify if it moves).

Bars look different to what's in the picture but come with all the fittings. Maybe wait until eBay do a discount code as M&P are usually on their 10% listings etc.

Just to give you a visual (the bit where the coolant system drain bolt is where I cut it off, and filed it down):

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.postimg.cc/1z3JwsnK/20190919-160504.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone fitted LED headlights
Post by: Tumaca on 11 October, 2019, 07:51:20 PM
*Originally Posted by Scarberian [+]
I just installed these last week:

https://www.banggood.com/2Pcs-H7-55W-26000LM-6000K-Car-LED-Headlights-Bulb-White-Fog-Lamp-IP68-Waterproof-p-1381474.html?rmmds=myorder&cur_warehouse=CN

They are not any longer than a standard H7 bulb, and I had no trouble fitting them into the socket. Are they any better? I have not ridden after dark yet, so I cannot say. I will say that they were not expensive, but took forever to arrive (>2 months). That's the trouble when shipping from China by mail, I guess. As long as you're not in a hurry, there's very little risk ordering these.

After some months... Do you recommend the change?
Title: Re: Anyone fitted LED headlights
Post by: Kamboskid on 12 October, 2019, 03:16:52 PM
Thanks for the prompt reply regarding your assembly for front lights, I am trying the idea out , will let you know how I get on with pics later!
Title: Re: Anyone fitted LED headlights
Post by: spinspin on 10 June, 2020, 12:15:19 AM
Replying here so there aren't endless topics on this.

Have now fitted LED headlights, LED indicators, LED sidelights/ numberplate lights & tail lights to the bike so thought I'd post a bit of a review on it all. Also now have a Lion battery as the last one was on its last legs. Total cost of all the changes was just under 50 all in.
Few reasons for doing this, LED's are now typically brighter and have a whiter light but also realised you can free up over 100w in power (abeit you don't have all your lights on all the time) for other stuff, am thinking about redoing the seat at some point, and adding in some heat pads, but charging a couple of phones & possibly a raspberry pi as an all in 1 GPS tracker, communication system & engine diagnostic tool (need to learn to code a bit better to get there).

Tail light, I bought in white but I'm sure red would be fine as well. Seems just as bright if not brighter than the standard bulb. Took 2 mins to fit and only need a Phillips head to do it. You can probably get better brighter bulbs max draw is down from 26w to 5w
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2X-380-LED-1157-Bay15d-P21w-21-5w-Car-Reverse-Back-Brake-Stop-Tail-Light-Bulbs/164170030289?hash=item26394bdcd1:m:mDoILXMBg39Fg9GEeJvVHZA

Sidelights & numberplate lights, should be easy to fit 2-3 mins a piece, simply take the old one out and put the new one in, the numberplate light just needed a screwdriver. I say should be easy because i dropped one of the bulbs in to the headlight assembly and had to take the faring & headlight assembly all off to fish the thing out.
These are great and really bright but too long to fit as a numberplate light so I also ended up buying a smaller set that would fit. Would recommend neither of these and would go with something that's bright and fits to save the extra expense.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/501-Led-Cob-White-T10-Xenon-Bulbs-W5w-Side-Light-Canbus-Error-Free-Wedge-194-168/382894921689?hash=item592650d7d9:g:FhYAAOSwlOlddpLU

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUXITO-10pc-T10-501-W5W-CAR-LED-INTERIOR-LIGHT-WEDGE-BULBS-ERROR-FREE-CANBUS/113894717155?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Indicators Probably my least favourite change for 2 reasons. I'm not as keen on the amber emitted by the bulbs i bought as i am the standard bulbs, I don't think the particular bulbs i bought are great quality and the replacement indicator relay doesn't have a click, have still not been able to find a swap in swap out part that will click so, may get a separate clicker unit in the future. Anyhow very easy to do, remove old bulbs fit new, take off right hand rear panel unplug old relay, plug in new relay, all in all about 15 mins work.
Indicator relay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Honda-4-Pin-Indicator-Relay-for-LED-Standard-Type-Indicators/401593816077?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Don't buy these bulbs:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/581-Indicator-Bau15s-Py21w-Led-Cob-Smd-Amber-Led-1156-Front-Turn-Signal-Bulb-12v/132922670511?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=432223500963&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Headlight This I was really impressed by as its a clear improvement over the standard philips filament bulbs I had in before, they are so much brighter and give much better depth, although it says there in on the description there is no fan on them to go wrong either and they are the newer type of CSP LED's as well which run slightly cooler i believe. I was a bit nervous about the fit but they actually went in really easily, the rubber caps fit over the ends without any problem and you can tuck the extra bit of cable away pretty simply. No need to remove the headlight assembly although as you have to fit a plastic mounting shroud before you put the bulb in its pretty easy to drop it in the headlight assembly and have to awkwardly fish it out with a pair of tweezers took around 20 mins to fit + some tweezer time. Photos attached.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Novsight-LED-H7-Super-Bright-Car-Headlight-Conversion-Kit-50W-10000LM-White-Pair/253757890743?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Hope it helps someone decide to or not to make these mods.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted LED headlights
Post by: raYzerman on 10 June, 2020, 12:28:41 AM
Wee tip.... some LED's are disappointing.. brightest ones I've found are from SuperBrite LED's they pump out some lumens....
Title: Re: Anyone fitted LED headlights
Post by: Rev Ken on 10 June, 2020, 08:24:37 PM
What's the dipped beam pattern like? (Thinking of the MOT!)

The most recent lighting MOT changes make HID conversions a fail item even if they meet the beam pattern regs. But for some reason it doesn't seem as if LED conversions are fail items if they have the necessary beam pattern.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted LED headlights
Post by: spinspin on 10 June, 2020, 09:51:57 PM
I was thinking about the beam pattern after I installed them and in the garage I couldn't get a good enough idea. The collars these fit in to have about 20 notches that the bulb can be positioned in giving about a 120 of movement, after shining it down the street I found that I had to take it back 2 or 3 notches to get the best pattern, left because the LED's are on the sides the change is noticeable as you twist. MOT is due in August so I guess i'll see then. Will perhaps being along the old bulbs on this one just in case.

All the LED's I bought I found to be plenty bright enough and certainly as bright or brighter than the bulbs I replaced, as I said the only thing I'm slightly disappointed by is how amber the indicators are. Looks like a decent supplier though  :002: