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Bikers Chat => On Two Wheels => Topic started by: phild on 10 January, 2019, 07:24:57 PM

Title: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: phild on 10 January, 2019, 07:24:57 PM
After returning my Garmin 595LM, following its dismal performance in Spain last May, today I took delivery of a Tom Tom Rider 550 so I can prepare it for our tour this year.

Looks a nice unit, but I dont know yet how easy it is it use. After a couple of hours downloading the software to my PC and trying to connect to MyDrive etc, it turns out they've been having server problems for a few days now. People cant register, update or connect to wifi.....what a bloody start!

On the support page there's a one line banner message saying there have been some problems, if it doesn't work, try again later!!!!!! :187: :187:

£314.99 of techno scrap at the moment!!! :232: :232:
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: kimbo8 on 11 January, 2019, 01:24:03 PM
Once you get it working it will be worth it.

I still can't get my head around the cost vs benefit between a specific motorbike Sat Nav and a standard car one.






Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: phild on 11 January, 2019, 01:57:17 PM
I was able to connect, via WiFi, this morning. Took 3 hours to update!

Iíll being playing with it over the weekend, hope it works better than the Garmin 595LM I returned.

Certainly like the screen more than the Garminís, but wish it was a 5Ē screen......need glasses for reading but not for riding.

Time will tell.  :028:
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: davidjg on 11 January, 2019, 04:50:25 PM
Hi. After reading your post, realised I had not updated my TomTom for last 1 month, It took less than 5 minutes for full UK & European  map updates, UK & European Safety (speed) cameras etc update, GPS updates and a few other updates. Which is about the normal time with auto backup - done via PC. Much prefer TomTom To Garmin.
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: phild on 11 January, 2019, 10:41:09 PM
I'm about to throw the bloody thing out the window! :232:

I've followed all the instructions, viewed the TomTom tutorials and I still can't transfer routes from MyDrive to the unit!!!

It shows on 'My Routes', but when I click on the route a message on the screen states 'No route possible'!!!! If it's listed how can it be 'No Route Possible'? :187:


Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: Art on 12 January, 2019, 12:18:41 PM
I had similar failures until I realised I'd confused 'MyDrive Connect' (the PC based application) and 'TomTom MyDrive' (the website)

To update your TomTom navigation device (and to transfer routes etc) you need to install the MyDrive Connect application.

Just updating my Rider 40
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: phild on 12 January, 2019, 02:06:53 PM
Thanks Art, all correct software installed, uninstalled and reinstalled X2.

Why do we need to be computer experts all the time?

I think Iíve finally cracked it........
Plan route on computer.....send destination......íLetís Goí appears on unit screen.......click on ĎCurrent routeí.......click on ĎAdd to my Routesí......and there it is.....done!! You just need to cancel Ďcurrent routeí then.  :028:

Still playing with it, not even fitted to my bike yet.

First impressions, the unit screen is far clearer than my previous Garmins. The route planning (now I know what Iím doing) appears easier than Garmin Basecamp.

Iíll update this thread once Iíve had a chance to use it on the road. :028:
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: Art on 12 January, 2019, 02:55:33 PM
Glad you got there, I found mine very frustrating to start, now it just happens.

I use ITNConverter to plan routes, save them as GPS eXchange 1.0 (*.gpx) files and they readily transfer onto the TomTom Rider by dragging and dropping into the MyDrive Connect application.

When mounting on the handlebar I use the TomTom anti-theft ram locking mount kit, no need to remove device at fuel stops or worry about some scrote grabbing it of the bar mount (I ride in London)
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: phild on 12 January, 2019, 03:50:19 PM
Itís been a very frustrating start. :087:

Iím enjoying doing the routes on my iPad and sending them to the unit......thatís really easy.  :028:
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: davidjg on 12 January, 2019, 04:06:55 PM
First time I have heard of ITNConvertor. Looked up the website but it was not very good at explaining what and how to convert and transfer files. What do think of it and how easy is it to use?
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: Art on 12 January, 2019, 05:28:18 PM
its mostly intuitive
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: phild on 12 January, 2019, 07:11:01 PM
I havenít looked at any other software to do my routes. As long as I can plan my routes via MyDrive, that will do me.

I get very frustrated with computers and itís not good for my blood pressure.  :008:

I donít even know what, if any, is the advantage of having another way of doing the routes.  :187:

Iím of the opinion....KISS (Keep it Simple Stupid). :028:
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: phild on 26 February, 2019, 09:49:06 PM
Update.

Today was the first chance Iíve had to get out and test the unit........

Iím very impressed. The first thing that stands out is the clarity of the screen, it puts the Garmin screen to shame. I also like being able to turn the screen from landscape to portrait.

Our route was 180 miles, when I took my own route it was very quick to recalculate.

I donít want music or a connection to my phone, so I canít comment on how good they are. I havenít connected it to my intercom either.

Doing everything over WiFi is very easy and convenient. I can plan routes on my computer, my iPad or the unit and transfer them all to each other. The route planning software is far easier to use than Garminís Basecamp.

Full map updates can take a few hours, but all other updates are quite quick.

Having started my motorcycle GPS career with a car TomTom 720, with a Tesco freezer bag over it when raining, before moving on to a Garmin 660. This lasted for about 6 years before packing in. I replaced it with the new Garmin 595, before going to Spain last year. This had so many problems / glitches/ battery issues I returned it as soon as we got home.

So far, after early setting up issues, I would say it is far better than the Garmin.

Obviously this is subjective, as I donít need or use most of the programs both TomTom and Garmin have. Someone who wants to listen to music, answer their phone etc etc may have other views.

The big test will come in May, when we tour Spain. :028:
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: Art on 27 February, 2019, 09:29:20 AM
Good news then. Fingers crossed Spain won't declare war over Gibraltar sovereignty post Brexit!
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: phild on 27 February, 2019, 04:38:29 PM
Did Gibraltar May 2017. :001:

Strange thing is that they will accept UK pounds, but in the UK you canít spend the Gibraltar pound.  :187:
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: Art on 28 February, 2019, 07:05:06 AM
Same as with the Scottish banknotes (and yes I know they're accepted all over the UK)

link https://www.scotbanks.org.uk/banknotes/legal-position.html
Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: phild on 02 June, 2019, 05:31:26 PM
Update.......No it hasnít been a mistake.

Having used the TomTom for a few months, and during our recent trip to Spain, my conclusion is it knocks spots off the Garmin 595 I had in Spain last year.

Everything, from the screen to the route planning is better than the Garmin.

Last year I couldnít see the Garmin screen in the sunlight, no problems with the TomTom.

All my planned routes on the TomTom worked perfectly, the Garmin just went itís own way.

Instructions on the screen are far clearer than the Garmin.

Altering routes on the TomTom, when the unit was out of the cradle was easy as the battery never got low. The Garmin lasted 20 minutes, whilst away from a power supply, if I was lucky!

Connecting to the hotel WiFi allowed me to update the unit, plan routes on my iPad and transfer to the unit easily.

Just for the sat nav users who use the bolt on bits, I donít connect to my intercom, I donít connect to my phone and I donít play music, so I am unable to comment on these subjects.

As long as this unit as got longevity in it (only time will tell with that one), then Iíll be  very happy.  :028:

Title: Re: Tom Tom......big mistake?
Post by: Art on 03 June, 2019, 06:42:22 AM
My Rider 40 is into its third year now, you'll be fine.