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CBF1000 => Tyres and Wheels => Topic started by: Scott_rider on 24 February, 2018, 11:22:34 AM

Title: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Scott_rider on 24 February, 2018, 11:22:34 AM
I just bought a pair of new Maxxis Supermaxx ST tyres on ebay for £128, delivered  :018:. Hopefully they will be fine as they seem to get a good review and for that price they do seem to be very good value. There are a few other pairs on there for the same price if anyone else is looking for some.

I've only had the bike about 4 weeks and I've done 500 miles but I don't like the Bridgestone Battlaxes that are on it (and they would have needed changing soon anyway).
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Ali-bear on 26 February, 2018, 11:40:09 AM
Maxxis are well regarded in the mountain bike world. Let us know how you get on with them  :028: :028:
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: edger on 28 February, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
https://www.cbf1000.com/index.php/topic,19925.msg241411.html#msg241411
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: oldtimer03 on 01 March, 2018, 11:41:34 AM
While your price was very good for the Maxxis, it would seem that you probably get what you pay for with tyres. The current (dated April) edition of RIDE mag did a comprehensive wet weather test (using a Z1000SX) on the top 8 major tyre brands, and unfortunately the Maxxis came out bottom of the pack with a score of 30/60, with grip levels described as 'very slippery on initial scrub-in", and "poor...even after scrubbing and warming".
Very close at the top were Metzeler Roadtec 01 (54/60), the Michelin Road 5 (53/60), and Bridgestone T31 53/60).
The only 10/10 individual factor score was for the Road 5 with 10/10 for front-end feel/grip/precision, with all the top three brands pretty much getting 9/10 for all the other tested factors.
Clearly dry-weather grip is another ball park, but personally I always go for safety first and great front end grip in the wet sounds like a must-have to me!
Sorry if this is a bit of a downer on your purchase, but I thought the RIDE article was interesting and anyway, many users are obviously happy with the Maxxis, so you're not alone!
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: shumba on 01 March, 2018, 12:29:09 PM
*Originally Posted by oldtimer03 [+]
While your price was very good for the Maxxis, it would seem that you probably get what you pay for with tyres. The current (dated April) edition of RIDE mag did a comprehensive wet weather test (using a Z1000SX) on the top 8 major tyre brands, and unfortunately the Maxxis came out bottom of the pack with a score of 30/60, with grip levels described as 'very slippery on initial scrub-in", and "poor...even after scrubbing and warming".
Very close at the top were Metzeler Roadtec 01 (54/60), the Michelin Road 5 (53/60), and Bridgestone T31 53/60).
The only 10/10 individual factor score was for the Road 5 with 10/10 for front-end feel/grip/precision, with all the top three brands pretty much getting 9/10 for all the other tested factors.
Clearly dry-weather grip is another ball park, but personally I always go for safety first and great front end grip in the wet sounds like a must-have to me!
Sorry if this is a bit of a downer on your purchase, but I thought the RIDE article was interesting and anyway, many users are obviously happy with the Maxxis, so you're not alone!

  Why is there so much emphasis on wet weather grip  ,surly most bikers ride to suite the conditions at the time ,its something that I have always done ,and I can put my hand on my heart and say that I have never dropped a bike on a wet road , I have however had tyres let go when banked over in a corner , thus making road holding and stability the most important aspect when buying tyres , From my own experience the super duper wet wet weather tyres have a trade off in not being good at high continental speeds, this being far more important to me I have used both the Maxxis touring tyres and the Maxxis ST.  I had Maxxis ST on my 1250 Bandit (that I have just sold ,it was to big ) After doing two Continental trips in a variety of  wet dry hot and cold conditions the ST would be the pick of the bunch for me , If buying expensive tyres gives others more confidence ,then they will be the tyres for them.
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: alantriggs on 01 March, 2018, 12:52:54 PM
Who doesn't love a tyre discussion  :046:.  It's always a very individual choice.

Dave,what have you replaced your Bandit with?
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: shumba on 01 March, 2018, 01:27:28 PM
*Originally Posted by alantriggs [+]
Who doesn't love a tyre discussion  :046:.  It's always a very individual choice.

Dave,what have you replaced your Bandit with?

 Hi Alan , Yes its great to have a rattle about tyres on a day like this when you cant get out of the house. I agree with you that tyres are an individual choice, at the same time I am sure that a lot of folks are influenced by smart advertising and end up buying tyres that are over priced and not the the best choice of tyre for the type of riding they do,  My way of thinking would say that having a high speed spill would be far more dangerous than a low speed spill on wet road.
 I am in between bikes at the moment and not sure what to go for , Am thinking of something a bit smaller maybe a 650 Suzi.
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: edger on 01 March, 2018, 02:21:24 PM
OK While we are in tyre discussion mode ,What about Mitas Sport Force+?
About the same price as Maxxis ,reviews seem ok too.
 Slovakian  Company Owned by Continental   big in the off road world. I have seen them on KTM 1290R recently.
Just sticking their toe in the road market.
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: jm2 on 01 March, 2018, 04:19:30 PM
*Originally Posted by shumba [+]
  Why is there so much emphasis on wet weather grip ...
Well said.

[Self-confessed FWR]
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Scott_rider on 02 March, 2018, 09:43:02 AM
I've generally used Michelin Pilot Road 3 or 4's in the past but so it will be interesting to see how they compare with these Maxxis tyres. The current Bridgestone Battlax that are on it have a sort of 'dead' feeling if that make sense?
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: shumba on 02 March, 2018, 09:59:03 AM
*Originally Posted by Scott_rider [+]
I've generally used Michelin Pilot Road 3 or 4's in the past but so it will be interesting to see how they compare with these Maxxis tyres. The current Bridgestone Battlax that are on it have a sort of 'dead' feeling if that make sense?

 I would think that how tyres compare is related to what you use them for, For weaving through traffic on greasy roads Michelin
 PR Pilot 4 would possibly be a good bet ,  I use my bikes mainly for long distance camping trips ,the bike is loaded up and  run at fairly high speed to cover  distance,  That is the reason I chose Maxxis  ST  ( Sports Touring )  because that is the type of use they are made for.  If I had my bike for pottering round the UK I would use different tyres.
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Scott_rider on 02 March, 2018, 10:39:29 AM
*Originally Posted by shumba [+]
I would think that how tyres compare is related to what you use them for, For weaving through traffic on greasy roads Michelin
 PR Pilot 4 would possibly be a good bet ,  I use my bikes mainly for long distance camping trips ,the bike is loaded up and  run at fairly high speed to cover  distance,  That is the reason I chose Maxxis  ST  ( Sports Touring )  because that is the type of use they are made for.  If I had my bike for pottering round the UK I would use different tyres.

My use for this bike will be a couple of big trips to Europe this year (5,000 miles in total) so I reckon the Maxxis should be good for those  :018:.
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Scott_rider on 16 April, 2018, 09:57:23 AM
I did 200 miles on the new tyres yesterday from Aylesbury to Southend and back. The weather was dry on the way there and quite wet about 40 miles from home. Initial impressions of the tyres are excellent  :046:. The bike is super stable, grip is great, and it turns in quickly, almost as if it's 50kg lighter, if that makes sense. So far, so good for the Maxxis tyres   :018:.
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Scott_rider on 13 September, 2018, 08:53:10 PM
Iíve now done 6,000 miles on the Maxxis Supermaxx and I reckon theyíve got about 1,000 miles left in them. They have been good tyres  :018:. I reckon they are not quite as good as PR4s in the wet but just as good in the dry. Iíd buy them again.

Anyway, Iíve just bought a new pair of Pirelli Diablo Stradas on eBay for £115   :002:. It will be interesting to see how they compare.

(there are a few other pairs on there at the same price, if anyone is looking for new tyres at the moment).
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Tommo2 on 14 September, 2018, 07:19:59 AM
Based on this Forum research earlier in the year, I shortlisted the Maxxis ST against the Pilot 4's. My tyre man (also a biker) recommended 4's, which he had in stock, I think they were about £40 to £50 dearer. So I went with with it based on 'You get what you pay for'.They have been fine all summer laden or unladen. The real test was last Thursday evening when I was caught in a massive downpour, flooding and standing water everywhere, they performed as if it were dry!, very confidence inspiring. They also seem to wearing very well.
I have used Mitas on my small bikes, and found them very good.
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: davyayr on 12 October, 2018, 12:26:02 AM
I recently fitted Michelin Road 5's, front and rear.

600 miles in and I love them.

I'm no knee-down hero, but after a couple of silly moments, they grip very well in the wet.  :001:

Dry riding is what you would expect.



Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: HGP on 12 October, 2018, 12:09:17 PM
  :028: I'm giving a thumb's up for the Avon storm 3D XMs that I have been using for ages. That's me on a third set and have never had any issues and mileage is good.
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Scott_rider on 14 November, 2018, 01:03:32 PM
I've now replaced the Maxxis Supermaxx ST tyres after doing nearly 7,000 miles on them  :018:. The rear was well squared off and just on the legal limit, the front had started to wear in a conical shape but still had some tread left. Overall they were very good tyres, imho, and well worth it for £120  :028:

I've now got Pirelli Diablo Strada tyres on the biffer and I've done about 200 miles on them. So far, very, very good  :028:.
And a bargain at £115 for the pair :028:.
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: phild on 14 November, 2018, 09:20:24 PM
*Originally Posted by Scott_rider [+]
I've now replaced the Maxxis Supermaxx ST tyres after doing nearly 7,000 miles on them  :018:. The rear was well squared off and just on the legal limit, the front had started to wear in a conical shape but still had some tread left. Overall they were very good tyres, imho, and well worth it for £120  :028:

I've now got Pirelli Diablo Strada tyres on the biffer and I've done about 200 miles on them. So far, very, very good  :028:.
And a bargain at £115 for the pair :028:.

The Stradaís date back over 10 years, itíll be interesting to hear how you find them over the coming months.  :028:
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Scott_rider on 15 November, 2018, 02:36:58 PM
If anyone else is buying Pirelli Diablo Stradas, it's worth checking the year of manufacture. There are a few pairs on ebay for stonking prices but beware of old stock from previous years. I got mine for £115 and they are 2018 manufactured tyres  :018:.

You can check the year of manufacture by the DOT mark on the tyre wall and on the advert. DOT 0618, for example, means manufactured in June 2018....i.e. 06= June; 18 = 2018

I know a lot of forumites will know this but it's useful if you don't know and are being offered 'cheap' tyres  :018:
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: jm2 on 15 November, 2018, 05:37:14 PM
*Originally Posted by Scott_rider [+]
... DOT 0618, for example, means manufactured in June 2018....i.e. 06= June; 18 = 2018 ..
February (week 6) in 2018 (not June).
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Scott_rider on 15 November, 2018, 07:55:12 PM
Yes, of course. Thanks.  Itís the week not the month.  :087:
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: phild on 31 January, 2019, 07:56:52 PM
Any update on your Maxxis STís?

Yet another rear tyre in need of replacement on my wifeís bike. Sheís had a front and rear due to wear, then another rear due to a deep cut across the whole width after only 2000 miles, and now a puncture after 2500 miles. :110:

Not going to repair it as weíre off to Spain in May, so want my nearest and dearest to be safe, and will put on new front and rear.  :028:
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Scott_rider on 01 February, 2019, 11:03:30 AM
So far, I think the Pirelli Stradas that I replaced the Maxxis Supermaxx with are better. They seem to have more feel but they are new so a lot of that is probably due to the newness versus the oldness of the 7,000 mile Maxxis that I replaced, if that makes sense  :087:.

But if wouldn't hesitate to buy Maxxis again. They were good tyres. Good grip and longevity at nearly 7,000 miles  :028:.
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: phild on 01 February, 2019, 11:12:32 AM
Thanks for the reply. Since weíre snowed in I donít think Iíll be in a rush to go out to replace them.  :001:

Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Leofric on 02 February, 2019, 12:38:49 AM
Why don't tyres have more depth of tread when new ?
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: phild on 02 February, 2019, 08:57:28 AM
Canít remember the last time I changed a tyre due to it tread depth.

Usually the back one has squared off, or in the case of the PR4ís we had, both front and back tyres wore unevenly and were horrible to ride on.

 :028:
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: phild on 18 February, 2019, 12:35:15 PM
My wife told me she doesnít want Bridgestone 023ís on her bike.

She said, not that theyíre bad, just not as good as Avonís sheís had in the past.

So itís Avon Storm 3D X-Mís (which I have on my bike) costing £213 ride in, ride out. Cheaper than what I paid for mine last year.  :028:
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: Leofric on 18 February, 2019, 06:43:24 PM
' Canít remember the last time I changed a tyre due to it tread depth.

Usually the back one has squared off,' - I find when the tyre has squared off the tread has worn down as well.
Title: Re: Maxxis Supermaxx ST
Post by: phild on 18 February, 2019, 07:56:38 PM
Tyres Iíve had square off well before they get to the thread indicators.

If I was commuting, like in my workdays, Iíd run them down to the indicators. However, as soon as shoulders (best way to describe it I suppose) start appearing, cornering becomes lesss smooth and the bike keeps trying to sit upright.

I suppose I change my tyres earlier than I used to.  :028: