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Title: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: NeiljohnUK on 12 August, 2016, 01:40:05 PM
Anyone tried them yet?
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Bifferman on 12 August, 2016, 02:51:28 PM
*Originally Posted by NeiljohnUK [+]
Anyone tried them yet?

Got a single 10" Metzeller on my wheel barrow - terrific grip :001:.

Actualy I did manage to buy half a dozen 10 x 3.5 wheel barrow tyres once - triple ply things and made by Dunlop.  The looked every bit as good as my Pirelli or Ceat tyres I was using on my Lambretta's at the time so gave them a whirl and they turned out to be brilliant :028:.  One Mich or Pirelli 10 x 3.5 back in the early 1970's was three pounds 15 shillings, the Ceat's a little less.  Job lot od Dunblops from a farm sale for 3 quids the lot.

Only other time I used Metzeller's was on my Yammie Viragos and they were absolutely brilliant then as well.  Why is it they don't sell all that well in Brexit land, I think Continental own them as well as they do Pirelli now so they will have good technology in them.  They are also OEM equipment on BMW's and at least BMW didn't stoop as low as Honda using the Stone 57's.

Hopefully the new Metzeller Roadtec 01's will be as good or better than the Z8's that Andyinvienna used to swear by.

Here is a May 2016 review and they come out highly rated:  http://www.cycleworld.com/metzeler-roadtec-01-motorcycle-tire-review-first-ride (http://www.cycleworld.com/metzeler-roadtec-01-motorcycle-tire-review-first-ride)

What Metzeler's marketing peeps have to say:   http://www.metzeler.com/site/uk/products/tyres-catalogue/Roadtec-01.html (http://www.metzeler.com/site/uk/products/tyres-catalogue/Roadtec-01.html)

and Visordown's view:  http://www.visordown.com/features/products/review-metzeler-roadtec-01-tyres-%C2%A3240-%C2%A3250-per-pair (http://www.visordown.com/features/products/review-metzeler-roadtec-01-tyres-%C2%A3240-%C2%A3250-per-pair)

Not cheap though at 250 a pair but just competitive with PR4's and Stone T30 Evo's.

Andy
 :149:
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: gordonh on 19 August, 2016, 04:38:19 PM
Very interested also. Fancy trying a pair
Two pair of z8 have had excellent road holding capability especially in wet conditions. Downside is terrible tracking on lines on the road. Certain roads that my old Genesis runs fine on with Bridgestone. The Cbf regular gives me a railroad effect and won't steer with me. It's pretty clear to see why as raised arc grooves appear in the tread pattern after the tyre starts to wear.
The z1 appears to have a much better shaped tread hopefully. :261:
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: NeiljohnUK on 14 October, 2016, 09:43:33 PM
Update, fitted them a month ago, several hundred wet and dry miles later I'm well pleased, better than PR's were.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: gordonh on 14 October, 2016, 10:10:51 PM
Sounds good so on shopping list.
 Been away from home working so much haven't got new rubber yet.
Quote 250 fitted in Aberdeen for a pair of 01s sounds ok.
Picked up a 2000 f650gs last time home as Another winter bike.
It has a new pair of Metzler enduro style semi knobly tyres fitted. Seem ok. :031:
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Bloitz on 15 October, 2016, 02:07:23 PM
*Originally Posted by gordonh [+]
Sounds good so on shopping list.
 Been away from home working so much haven't got new rubber yet.
Quote 250 fitted in Aberdeen for a pair of 01s sounds ok.
Picked up a 2000 f650gs last time home as Another winter bike.
It has a new pair of Metzler enduro style semi knobly tyres fitted. Seem ok. :031:

Which ones?
If they are the Metzeler tourance (not the Tourance Next) then I will have to disappoint you: they kind of suck. Didn't really like them in the wet or anything remotely off-road. They're a long lasting road tyre hyped up by chubby GS blokes who think a dry flat gravel path is "off-roading".  :232:
Pardon my rant but I have never been more disappointed in a tyre than those, especially after reading a lot of good "reviews" by those "off-roaders".
(PS: I have been very pleased with the Mitas E-07 as a proper dual-sport tyre. Work great on wet or dry hardtop and pull their weight off-road. Deep mud is deep mud though, don't bog down or you will be pushing. Might be worth checking them out when your F650GS needs new rubber.)
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: gordonh on 15 October, 2016, 02:36:31 PM
Pretty sure they are tourance.
Bmw is Just a bike for the road to save the CBF from the worst of winter.
 If I get good mileage then all the better.
Our roads were extremely bad last winter.
Single cylinder 650 should slow me down sufficiently on cold naff greasy roads. Should still be a bit of fun with plenty back roads in our area.
01 Metzler seems a decent option for Honda tho.
I have a couple of old bikes with nobblies for off road if I had time to use them that is.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Brit182 on 22 October, 2016, 10:12:58 AM
There's an MCN Blind Testing video on You Tube done earlier this year of a group of sport touring tyers under pretty strict conditions.

01's won with a score of 9.8 out of 10.

Will be going for them in the Spring (don't ride much over the winter) I think. My original Contis have loads on them but they have been in use since 2012 so could be sensible to swap them out now.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Peter T on 16 January, 2017, 09:27:38 PM
Putting a set on my biffer tomorrow, changing from Pilot road 4's which I don't like even though they have only done 1200 miles on them, (on the bike when I bought it)
Will update tomorrow as riding 160 miles after they are fitted.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: J-man on 16 January, 2017, 09:40:43 PM
Like to hear your report, yet new tires are kind of....new? As in slippery.
Most people love their PR4's so I'm surprised that you are unhappy with them. What was the bad news please?
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Peter T on 16 January, 2017, 10:50:58 PM
Well I tried the pilot road 3's when they came out and they were very good, but the front seemed to squirm a lot due to many stipes in the tyre, but they were great compared to what was available at the time.
The 4's reduced the amount of stipes at the front and they were better. But they are old now compared to the new market leaders, tyre compound changes very quickly and what was good 2-3 years ago changes, the new kid on the block is the Metzeler roadtec 01 and that is where I am going. I have a very good source as I go through a lot of tyres and what he sells is what people want and that is that. I am sure that a couple of years a new tyre/brand will be top dog.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: shumba on 17 January, 2017, 08:31:06 AM
*Originally Posted by Peter T [+]
Well I tried the pilot road 3's when they came out and they were very good, but the front seemed to squirm a lot due to many stipes in the tyre, but they were great compared to what was available at the time.
The 4's reduced the amount of stipes at the front and they were better. But they are old now compared to the new market leaders, tyre compound changes very quickly and what was good 2-3 years ago changes, the new kid on the block is the Metzeler roadtec 01 and that is where I am going. I have a very good source as I go through a lot of tyres and what he sells is what people want and that is that. I am sure that a couple of years a new tyre/brand will be top dog.

  The roadtech 01 would be my first choice, as far as the new breed of tyres are concerned, The PR4s seem over priced old technology in comparison.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Peter T on 18 January, 2017, 08:07:37 AM
Ok so I got back quite late yesterday after having my Roadtec 01 fitted. The first thing I noticed is how much quieter these are compared to the PR4's, secondly the bike turns in a lot quicker, not nervously so but much easier and this makes riding less tiring.
Grip wise is like night and day, the temperature last night in the south east was 0 degrees and my Kies heated jacket has got a loose connection somewhere so it heats for a while then stops, making my journey a stop start affair!! After giving my tyres at least 50 miles of wear I started to push towards the later part of my journey home to Warwickshire. It's like riding a new bike it flows through the bends and the feedback from the front tyre is amazing, something the PR4 never gave and this inspires more confidence as you can feel the road!!
Might have a play with the tyre pressures as I am running 34psi front and 36 psi rear and I thing the rear could do with some more pressure as it feels a bit low, but this could be my top box giving me this feeling rather than the tyre as I had quite a lot of weight in it which caused the bike to be top heavy.
Will report back after some better riding later this week.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: J-man on 18 January, 2017, 09:24:42 AM
*Originally Posted by Peter T [+]
...Will report back after some better riding later this week.
:028: thank you. Sounds very promising.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Montblanc on 18 January, 2017, 03:30:13 PM
Great info! I have a friend who rides BMWs and swears by the new Metzler's. I am on my third set of PR4's and getting about 10k miles per pair. Time for a change soon, I think.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: SaturnV on 18 January, 2017, 04:17:45 PM
*Originally Posted by Peter T [+]
Ok so I got back quite late yesterday after having my Roadtec 01 fitted. The first thing I noticed is how much quieter these are compared to the PR4's, secondly the bike turns in a lot quicker, not nervously so but much easier and this makes riding less tiring.
Grip wise is like night and day, the temperature last night in the south east was 0 degrees and my Kies heated jacket has got a loose connection somewhere so it heats for a while then stops, making my journey a stop start affair!! After giving my tyres at least 50 miles of wear I started to push towards the later part of my journey home to Warwickshire. It's like riding a new bike it flows through the bends and the feedback from the front tyre is amazing, something the PR4 never gave and this inspires more confidence as you can feel the road!!
Might have a play with the tyre pressures as I am running 34psi front and 36 psi rear and I thing the rear could do with some more pressure as it feels a bit low, but this could be my top box giving me this feeling rather than the tyre as I had quite a lot of weight in it which caused the bike to be top heavy.
Will report back after some better riding later this week.

Sounds awesome!  Also read some great reviews on the Metzeler tyres so will be changing to them on either the CBR or CBF when the need arises. BTW I set my pressurs to the manual which says Front : 36 & rear 42...

Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Brit182 on 18 January, 2017, 05:15:19 PM
Good to get some feed back on a Biffer fitted with the 01's. It appears to chime with all I've heard and read.

Like  I said a while back, I'll definitely be replacing the OME Conti's with them in the Spring. They have been a lot better than the OME Bridgestones that were on my Mk1 when I got it back in 07 but that was a long time ago and light year away in tyre technology!  I had PR1's and then 2's on the Mk1 when the Bridgstones were done with and liked them both, there again they were a major step forward at the time.

The Mk2 has been OK on the Conti's but I've never been 100% happy with the feel of the front end, particularly when accelerating out of bends and roundabouts, so as I missed most of the "riding season" last year, I've promised myself a change. I figure its a relatively small amount to pay for the enjoyment, even though its not a necessity in terms of tread wear.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Bloitz on 19 January, 2017, 09:27:41 AM
*Originally Posted by Peter T [+]
Ok so I got back quite late yesterday after having my Roadtec 01 fitted. The first thing I noticed is how much quieter these are compared to the PR4's, secondly the bike turns in a lot quicker, not nervously so but much easier and this makes riding less tiring.
...

Well, I hope you aren't comparing a new tire to an old tire. IMHO, the PR4 felt very nimble when new. This disappeared as it wore though. But when new, I don't think there are other tires which fall into a corner so readily as a PR4 / PP3 .
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Peter T on 22 January, 2017, 10:19:27 PM
Well I had another good ride out today covering 268 miles on my new tyres, it was minus 3 degrees when I left and the roads were a tad icy. These tyres gripped like I have never felt!! I actually rode faster than I ever had as these inspired such confidence. I can't believe how good they are and felt much better at high speed on the motorway too.
I replaced the pilot 4's that had done less than 1500 miles as you asked so the tyres where as new condition.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: SaturnV on 23 January, 2017, 09:15:27 AM
*Originally Posted by Peter T [+]
Well I had another good ride out today covering 268 miles on my new tyres, it was minus 3 degrees when I left and the roads were a tad icy. These tyres gripped like I have never felt!! I actually rode faster than I ever had as these inspired such confidence. I can't believe how good they are and felt much better at high speed on the motorway too.
I replaced the pilot 4's that had done less than 1500 miles as you asked so the tyres where as new condition.

Good to hear they are so confidence-inspiring even in these cold temps but please do take EXTRA care on ICY roads mate  :003:

BTW do you mind me asking how much they cost you?  Hope you didn't just throw the old ones in the bin with under 1500 miles either; must be a market for slightly worn tyres on Ebay surely?!

Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Rev Ken on 23 January, 2017, 11:00:19 AM
It does show we have very different 'tastes' in tyres. What is important is that you have confidence ion them. I chucked an almost new set of Conti Attacks fitted to my BMW F800GT and replaced them with PR4s as teh COntis frightened me in the wet, I was sliding far too easily. I have total confidence in my PR4s and have used successive generations from PR2s onwards. I get good mileage out of them and for me they perform as well as any tyre I've ever used in the wet which is my priority when buying tyres as that is the time I am nearer the limit of adhesion. Any modern tyre gives a fair safety margin in the dry on public roads!
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Peter T on 23 January, 2017, 12:25:45 PM
Paid 230 for them to be fitted at Guildford Tyre company, rode in then out.
Old tyres just binned them.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: shumba on 23 January, 2017, 01:04:00 PM
 Not trying to be derogatory to anyone, And not trying to say that I am any better at bike riding than anyone else ,But I think that there is far to much emphasis on tyres rather than on riding ability and confidence, I have ridden out with lots of other bikers and cant help but notice the way that other bikes are ridden, The way that bikes are banked over and come out of corners even on wet roads seems to have nothing to do with what tyres are on the bike ,and has a lot to do with the riders confidence, I have also noticed that a lot of riders on PR4 tyres are reluctant to make the best of them I can only assume that they either lack confidence or experience, I am not talking about lunatic bike riding , but making good progress and using the road and the bikes ability as the police instructors would say. No tyre as far as I am concerned will make up for lack of confidence or experience.
 I have Battleaxe 021 tyres on my bike at the moment that I am very happy with and will not  replaced until they are worn out. What will I replace them with it wont be PR4 tyres because I dont like them and not really interested who else uses them or how popular they are.  I will probably go for Pirreli Angels or Metzler 01s.
 
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: k9doc on 23 January, 2017, 02:23:45 PM
Agree with shumba above. My bike came with part worn PR4s and will be replacing as soon as practicable with my favourite Avon Storm 2 Ultra. I know these have now been superceded, with a tyre more suited to bikes with tyre shredding power (according to my conversation with the people at Avon). Over the years I have had many sets of Avons, in their various guises, on several different bikes and always found them to be confidence inspiring in both wet and dry.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: SaturnV on 23 January, 2017, 03:35:14 PM
*Originally Posted by Peter T [+]
Paid 230 for them to be fitted at Guildford Tyre company, rode in then out.
Old tyres just binned them.

Cheers that sounds reasonable including tyres and fitting.

Shame you just chucked the old ones away seems like a waste and I wish I'd known (would have offered to come down & 'recycle' them for you  :016:
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Bloitz on 23 January, 2017, 05:50:04 PM
Peter, how does the front feel? Does it feel solid and smooth? Is it sensitive to pressure?
I find the PR4 a bit squirmish and very sensitive to pressure. Main reasons I won't buy a set again.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Peter T on 23 January, 2017, 09:53:26 PM
Front feels a lot more informative than the pilot road's gave. I tend to run my front at 34 psi and this works well for my set up. The pilots felt hard at 34 psi even though they were not but I think the carcass is a lot thicker on those which is why.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Rev Ken on 24 January, 2017, 08:06:03 AM
*Originally Posted by Peter T [+]
Front feels a lot more informative than the pilot road's gave. I tend to run my front at 34 psi and this works well for my set up. The pilots felt hard at 34 psi even though they were not but I think the carcass is a lot thicker on those which is why.
That surprises me. Ask any bike garage about stiffness of different tyre side walls and I think you will find PR4s are more flexible than many other tyres. Perhaps that is why they are more particular when it comes to tyre pressures. I keep mine at the recommended 36psi and don't experience the problems experienced by some of the contributors to this thread. Still as I've said, personal confidence in the tyres fitted to our bikes is paramount.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Bloitz on 24 January, 2017, 10:59:18 AM
*Originally Posted by Rev Ken [+]
That surprises me. Ask any bike garage about stiffness of different tyre side walls and I think you will find PR4s are more flexible than many other tyres. Perhaps that is why they are more particular when it comes to tyre pressures. I keep mine at the recommended 36psi and don't experience the problems experienced by some of the contributors to this thread. Still as I've said, personal confidence in the tyres fitted to our bikes is paramount.
Yep, I have to agree. Very flexible tires. I can instantly tell if my front is below 36 PSI. 34 psi would feel like running a flat tire to me.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: shumba on 27 January, 2017, 03:59:47 PM
 Have just noticed that in the  January 18th MCN they have done a tyre wet weather test using a BMW 1200RS . according to them
 the Metzler 01 tyres are a clear winner as far as wet weather and all round riding is concerned,
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: NeiljohnUK on 07 March, 2017, 11:45:55 PM
Well I loved the wet grip, and the confidence they inspired, BUT, and it's a big one, they tear when punctured, picked up something in the rear and it tore the carcass. The reason they feel good and warm quickly is simple, they are THIN, I recon no more than 4-5mm thick at the bottom of the grooves, even my nippers scooter tyres are thicker ~10-12mm at bottom of tread groove, still running the almost new 01 front, and now a T30 Evo on the back. Shame I really liked the 01's, but on whats left of the UK's debris strewn roads just not sustainable on a daily riding machine.  :172:
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: shumba on 08 March, 2017, 05:44:54 AM
*Originally Posted by NeiljohnUK [+]
Well I loved the wet grip, and the confidence they inspired, BUT, and it's a big one, they tear when punctured, picked up something in the rear and it tore the carcass. The reason they feel good and warm quickly is simple, they are THIN, I recon no more than 4-5mm thick at the bottom of the grooves, even my nippers scooter tyres are thicker ~10-12mm at bottom of tread groove, still running the almost new 01 front, and now a T30 Evo on the back. Shame I really liked the 01's, but on whats left of the UK's debris strewn roads just not sustainable on a daily riding machine.  :172:

 If you dont know what caused the damage to your tyre then how do you know that it would not have caused damage to any other tyres. Talking of thin tyres I fit my own and of all the tyres that I have fitted PR4 are the easiest to fit that I have come across ,The walls on them and the carcass is very thin and pliable ,I dident have any trouble with them myself ,but from what I have seen it would take very little to damage the carcass on them ,I know of others who have had to replace them because of carcass damage I think Markytp was one of them.
 All of the worn bike tyres that I have seen have only ever had 1 or 2 mm  from the bottom of the tread to the canvass of the carcass,  when getting tyres fitted it could be worth asking the tyre fitter to have a look at some old worn bike tyres it may come as a surprise to see how little rubber cover the carcass has, irrespective of the make of tyre,  Putting more rubber bellow the tread would serve no purpose ,and only add weight to the tyre.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: NeiljohnUK on 08 March, 2017, 11:38:46 PM
I usually fit my own and repair them, but the hole torn in it was beyond repair, the motorcycle tyre specialist who examined it was shocked at the tearing. I usually cut up my old tyres to scrap them and I've never seen one so thin in the tread area, rapid heating is the benefit, but without the mass of rubber once something goes through the carcass wires it tears the thin rubber either side of the hole apart, a bit like the tear if an episiotomy isn't performed. He estimated by the wire gap its was something like a wood screw or nail, but the tearing was two of three times that.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Bloitz on 09 April, 2017, 11:27:15 AM
*Originally Posted by NeiljohnUK [+]
I usually fit my own and repair them, but the hole torn in it was beyond repair, the motorcycle tyre specialist who examined it was shocked at the tearing. I usually cut up my old tyres to scrap them and I've never seen one so thin in the tread area, rapid heating is the benefit, but without the mass of rubber once something goes through the carcass wires it tears the thin rubber either side of the hole apart, a bit like the tear if an episiotomy isn't performed. He estimated by the wire gap its was something like a wood screw or nail, but the tearing was two of three times that.

If you still have it: Take a picture and send it to Metzeler. Doesn't take long and there might be a chance you get a new one from them.

But yeah, motorcycle tires are "flimsy". My last puncture (on the Pirelli Angel GT) was from a Bic M10 pocket clip... I kid you not, a  :172: piece of plastic ...
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Robo on 09 April, 2017, 11:56:21 AM
*Originally Posted by shumba [+]
  Talking of thin tyres I fit my own and of all the tyres that I have fitted PR4 are the easiest to fit that I have come across ,The walls on them and the carcass is very thin and pliable ,I dident have any trouble with them myself ,but from what I have seen it would take very little to damage the carcass on them ,I know of others who have had to replace them because of carcass damage I think Markytp was one of them.

So my Bush Friend I need to ask a few Q's , are you using a Tigers Femur Bone or Elephants Tusk  or just your ROAR strength as I tyre lever or something made of Metal.

I have one of these, so no need to protect the rim with antelope ears.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tyre-bar-lever-Manual-machine-changer-alloy-wheels-car-motorcycle-4x4-/172610175752?hash=item28305e4308:g:RZ4AAMXQxVZRCRuq
Carcass's What kind  :mfrlol:

I need to see your shooting room  :178:   
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: shumba on 09 April, 2017, 12:11:50 PM
[quote author=Bloitz

But yeah, motorcycle tires are "flimsy". My last puncture (on the Pirelli Angel GT) was from a Bic M10 pocket clip... I kid you not, a  :172: piece of plastic ...
[/quote]

 I have gone back to Maxxis tyres tyres for that very reason, About 7 years ago I used a pair of Maxxis touring tyres and coudent fault them after 5000 miles very little wear was evident . Have just purchased a pair of the latest Maxxis ST tyres ready to fit, the casings on all of the Maxxis tyres that I have used have had a very substantule and  ridgid lay up on the casing far stiffer than any other tyres that I have used, I purchased them with idea of fitting them after my trip to Italy and just before my MOT is due, If they are going to be as good as the other Maxxis that I have used I will be happy.  The only downer is that because the casings
are so stiff ,they can be a devil to fit, but there again one cant have everything can one.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Robo on 09 April, 2017, 12:26:12 PM
Blimey another thing in common :112:

I have been running on Maxxis M6026 touring tyres for years and get silly high miles from them.
I pay less than 150 per pair. sometimes 134 Delivered from the supplier.

I like their wear pattern , you don't get the white lining affect or feathering like others.

The ST range are fairly new and haven't seen them , but the pictures I've seen look like the same tread pattern.

 :062:

Maxxis tyres are under rated and most riders follow the BIG names with BIG PRICES.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: shumba on 09 April, 2017, 12:28:43 PM
*Originally Posted by Robo [+]
So my Bush Friend I need to ask a few Q's , are you using a Tigers Femur Bone or Elephants Tusk  or just your ROAR strength as I tyre lever or something made of Metal.

I have one of these, so no need to protect the rim with antelope ears.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tyre-bar-lever-Manual-machine-changer-alloy-wheels-car-motorcycle-4x4-/172610175752?hash=item28305e4308:g:RZ4AAMXQxVZRCRuq
Carcass's What kind  :mfrlol:

I need to see your shooting room  :178:

 Hi Robo my courier pal dont know about using bones but have seen canvas glued inside tyre to cover tears, any thing to get out of the bush before dark ,or else it can get very scary.
 Havent seen one of those tyre changing gadgets before ,I use a ABBA bead breaker no not the singing one.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: shumba on 09 April, 2017, 12:31:21 PM
*Originally Posted by Robo [+]
Blimey another thing in common :112:

I have been running on Maxxis M6026 touring tyres for years and get silly high miles from them.
I pay less than 150 per pair. sometimes 134 Delivered from the supplier.

I like their wear pattern , you don't get the white lining affect or feathering like others.

The ST range are fairly new and haven't seen them , but the pictures I've seen look like the same tread pattern.

 :062:

Maxxis tyres are under rated and most riders follow the BIG names with BIG PRICES.

  :0461: Great minds think alike what more can I say.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: richardcbf on 09 April, 2017, 06:50:52 PM
*Originally Posted by shumba [+]
.....Have just purchased a pair of the latest Maxxis ST tyres ready to fit, the casings on all of the Maxxis tyres that I have used have had a very substantule and  ridgid lay up on the casing far stiffer than any other tyres that I have used, I purchased them with idea of fitting them after my trip to Italy and just before my MOT is due, If they are going to be as good as the other Maxxis that I have used I will be happy.  The only downer is that because the casings
are so stiff ,they can be a devil to fit, but there again one cant have everything can one.
Hey Dave, are you riding to Italy and if so when? Which bike will you be fitting the Maxxis ST tyres to?  :038:
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: shumba on 09 April, 2017, 07:10:57 PM
*Originally Posted by richardcbf [+]
Hey Dave, are you riding to Italy and if so when? Which bike will you be fitting the Maxxis ST tyres to?  :038:

 Yes Richard  will doing the trip  my Suzuki , Le shuttle is booked for the 25th May . The tyres on my bike at the moment are about
 half worn and to good to throw away thats the reason for fitting the new tyres when I come back would think that my present tyres will be  past  their best by then.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: richardcbf on 10 April, 2017, 07:12:53 AM
*Originally Posted by shumba [+]
10 February, 2016, 07:23:28 PM
 I Have  021  tyres on my present bike and to be honest I dont feel any difference between 021 tyres and PR4 tyres that I had on my previous bike, both of them feel sure footed the 021 tyres are on a bike with a lot more grunt and feel OK to me,
 I looked at the pricing of tyres the T30 is twice the price of 021 tyres that have lasted for over 10,000 miles on some bikes.
 Some one is going to say its not worth taking chances with tyres, well that exactly what I say, thats why I am very fussy about my tyres and put my trust in tyres that have been out a few years tried and tested rather than buy very expensive new tyres that may or may not be better, without any proof either way.  When replacing my tyres I will be using 021 tyres unless of course I see positive proof other wise.

*Originally Posted by shumba [+]
12 April 2017 at 12:11:50 PM
....Have just purchased a pair of the latest Maxxis ST tyres ready to fit, the casings on all of the Maxxis tyres that I have used have had a very substantule and  ridgid lay up on the casing far stiffer than any other tyres that I have used, I purchased them with idea of fitting them after my trip to Italy and just before my MOT is due...

*Originally Posted by shumba [+]
Yes Richard  will doing the trip  my Suzuki , Le shuttle is booked for the 25th May . The tyres on my bike at the moment are about
 half worn and to good to throw away thats the reason for fitting the new tyres when I come back would think that my present tyres will be  past  their best by then.

Dave, am I right that you are on one of your elaborate 'wind ups'?!  :008:
First MOT on a motorcycle is due at 3 years old and this year is 2017.
Or did you end up with a old (older than 2015) model Suzuki?

*Originally Posted by shumba [+]
04 April, 2015, 11:44:34 AM
 Very good review, The bike that I am interested in is a different model its one of the new 2015 Susuki  GSX 1250 the one with a revised engine,lighting ,suspension and full fairing, Givi  luggage and revised fuel injection, It possibly looks like the same type of bike as the old bandit.But with a lot of changes that will more than likely make it a better all round bike.

*Originally Posted by shumba [+]
09 August, 2016, 04:17:10 PM
....I purchased my GSX 1250 in January when there was plenty of salt on the road and used it right through the winter , and  4000 miles later the bike looks pristine as if its just come out of the factory....
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: shumba on 10 April, 2017, 08:06:52 AM
 No Richard no wind up my bike was registered in late July 2014 it was a almost unused dealer  pre reg that I was told was the later 2015 model I purchased it in January 2016, I was looking for one of these bikes and this one was offered to me at such a good price it seemed to good to miss. The age of bike is sometimes difficult to gauge the MK1 biffer I believe went out of production in 2010 and was still being sold as new in 2014 ,the MK2 biffer stopped being made in I think 2012 and was still recently being sold as new bikes.
 The other thing is that the Maxxis ST tyre have only been available in the UK for a few months and I was only recently made aware of them and so couldent make any previous mention of them. As I have said I have used Maxxis tyres before and having noticed the latest ST tyre on looking into them and gather any info I could get they had a lot of appeal to me, Although I havent fitted the tyres yet from what I can see they look like they will live up to expectations.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: Robo on 10 April, 2017, 11:20:02 AM
 :mfrlol: :104: Can't win them all richardcbf.

We all know Shumba's  :oldie: +  :087: but I doubt we will be riding at 85  :028:

Better to be riding til the end than licking the inside of a care home window  :127:

Lucky the Euro is in most countries ?

Bet he ends up in Spain looking for Pasta  :031:
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: gordonh on 04 January, 2019, 05:34:57 PM
01s on for last 2-3months. 1000 miles
Best grip tyre I've used-on rough mucky back roads,
Wet and very cold conditions. Wear not sure yet. Must be some compromise.
Title: Re: Metzeler RoadTec 01's?
Post by: gordonh on 18 August, 2019, 11:17:16 PM
Rear 01 to require renewed before long as flat wear at 4k miles.
Fair bit 2up and luggage on veriety of scottish roads.
Front has a noise llike a bearing only on some rough surfaces at same miles but no feathering nor tramline of z8.
Cracking grip all weathers 2 up