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Title: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Persimmon on 17 September, 2015, 05:48:57 PM
My 2009 came with a MRA Vario screen.
The Vario has the screen and an attached adjustable spoiler.

I have enjoyed riding at "slightly above 70 mph" !!! and the windblast is pretty good indeed.

However I noticed that MRA do a larger X-creen spoiler and I wondered if that would make it even better.

Luckily the supplier is just up the motorway from me so I went up and having discussed the options realised that I could indeed add the larger screen spoiler to my existing screen with minimal effort and so it was a purchase I had to make.

The larger spoiler is a good 2-3 inches bigger in height and wider by a few inches as well.

The small spoiler on my bike has a single ratchet adjustment but the larger X creen spoiler has a two way ratchet adjustment allowing for increasing height and angle adjustments so offering far greater options and protection.

Both ratchets have a lock on either side but it's a simple turn 45 degrees.

On the motorway and hitting 80-90 mph plus its very good indeed and I would recommend it.

The spoiler needs to be built but took about 15 mins. Instructions were good.
Taking off the existing spoiler and adding the new X creen spoiler took 1 minute. Simples.

I have tried to attach a few pictures to show before and after images and hope they come out.

Before -

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af307/alandaly/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20001_zpsrlhatig9.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/alandaly/media/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20001_zpsrlhatig9.jpg.html)

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af307/alandaly/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20004_zpsdwtbkobc.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/alandaly/media/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20004_zpsdwtbkobc.jpg.html)
After -

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af307/alandaly/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20007_zpsry0ypqrd.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/alandaly/media/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20007_zpsry0ypqrd.jpg.html)

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af307/alandaly/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20006_zpsnyajkkur.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/alandaly/media/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20006_zpsnyajkkur.jpg.html)


I have set the new spoiler at a medium setting for the moment but it can go a lot higher should I wish.

It is said putting on a Vario Touring is like riding a new bike. All I can say by adding the X creen to my bike it is a strong improvement.

Alan
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: illmor on 17 September, 2015, 08:39:54 PM
Where did you get it from ? If i may ask. Price ? Thx
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Persimmon on 17 September, 2015, 09:20:06 PM
The distributor is BikeHPS
They are based in Alfreton in Derbyshire
Website is
www.bikehps.com (http://www.bikehps.com)
If you buy bike magazines they are often advertising in there with their screens , wheels, quickshifters, shocks , gear indicators, brakes, levers etc etc.
As for stock price not sure. Friendly faces offer good prices shall I say.
Email / call for info.
Alan
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Robo on 17 September, 2015, 09:34:21 PM
Price and size
HERE  http://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/MRA_X-creen_Motorcycle_Screen_Flip_Spoiler_Air_Deflector.html (http://www.bikehps.com/acatalog/MRA_X-creen_Motorcycle_Screen_Flip_Spoiler_Air_Deflector.html)
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: illmor on 17 September, 2015, 10:35:57 PM
I was hoping for much lower price, as it's only bit of plastic. Bit of thick perspex may work shaped and cut to size
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Persimmon on 18 September, 2015, 05:11:22 AM
I guess we are paying for the Multi swivel adjustable lockable control to allow it to be positioned in so many ways. No doubt it could be fabricated as you say but there is great value in being able to adjust it for your height , the different types of journey etc.  Also aesthetics to some extent.
Alan
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Robo on 18 September, 2015, 10:16:29 AM
*Originally Posted by Persimmon [+]
I guess we are paying for the Multi swivel adjustable lockable control to allow it to be positioned in so many ways. No doubt it could be fabricated as you say but there is great value in being able to adjust it for your height , the different types of journey etc.  Also aesthetics to some extent.
Alan

Someones needs to get a 3D printer  :028:
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Biker Mike on 20 September, 2015, 09:20:10 PM
*Originally Posted by Robo [+]
Someones needs to get a 3D printer  :028:
Ask kodde nicely.
He's got one.
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Robo on 20 September, 2015, 09:41:00 PM
*Originally Posted by Biker Mike [+]
Ask kodde nicely.
He's got one.

Apparently he made a boat and hasn't returned  :118:
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: phild on 21 September, 2015, 09:06:40 AM
So is it best to to buy the screen and extension complete, or, use your own screen and buy the extension?

I know these things are subjective, but any opinions?  :028:

I seem to get on alright with the standard screen, but I'm starting to wonder if I should be expecting something better. :187:
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Persimmon on 21 September, 2015, 09:37:37 AM
I have only had the MRA Vario screen and so can't compare it to a stock screen.
Is it lower to start with etc - not sure
Is it easy to drill four exactly placed holes in the standard screen without it cracking
If the Vario is better to start with I would recommend getting the Vario screen with larger spoiler given it's more variation in setting
If anyone wants the smaller spoiler to fit on to their standard or otherwise screen it's available for a small price
Alan
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: richardcbf on 21 September, 2015, 10:00:38 AM
*Originally Posted by phild [+]
So is it best to to buy the screen and extension complete, or, use your own screen and buy the extension?

I know these things are subjective, but any opinions?  :028:

I seem to get on alright with the standard screen, but I'm starting to wonder if I should be expecting something better. :187:
Based on the report by Alan (Persimmon) I like the idea of adding an X-creen to an existing screen.
I've still got the oem Honda screen, but replaced it on the bike with an MRA 'touring' (without Vario) model, which is about 2" taller and has the vent holes that do seem to make a difference in reducing buffeting.
My preference would be to apply the fixing with bolt-on version for attaching the X-screen (instead of relying on the clamp option version) but some others might not want to have to drill holes in their screen.
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: richardcbf on 21 September, 2015, 10:02:09 AM
*Originally Posted by Persimmon [+]
....If anyone wants the smaller spoiler to fit on to their standard or otherwise screen it's available for a small price
Alan
Hi Alan, please let me know how much you'd want me to pay! Thanks :-)
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Persimmon on 21 September, 2015, 10:16:42 AM
I will find out the postal cost first as it needs to be packed securely.
It's not to bendable for Postie to fold through the letterbox
It takes a 8 hex screw which I would supply but you need a screwdriver with that fit
Worth checking you have it

Alan
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Persimmon on 21 September, 2015, 10:20:08 AM
Forgot to add when buying these spoilers I would also recommend fitting with screws as it's better for security. Especially with the hex screw. Less chance of a tea leave screwing it off
Alan
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: richardcbf on 21 September, 2015, 10:32:35 AM
*Originally Posted by Persimmon [+]
I will find out the postal cost first as it needs to be packed securely.
It's not to bendable for Postie to fold through the letterbox
It takes a 8 hex screw which I would supply but you need a screwdriver with that fit
Worth checking you have it

Alan
Thanks Alan, look forward to hearing more, but at a guess a Royal Mail 'small parcel' (up to 2kg and up to 45cm x 35cm x 16cm) will do it.
http://www.royalmail.com/price-finder (http://www.royalmail.com/price-finder)

(haven't looked but I'm pretty sure that I've got a suitable head in one of my Allen type screwdriver bit sets.)
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Persimmon on 21 September, 2015, 12:39:08 PM
PM sent

Alan
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Robo on 21 September, 2015, 02:28:21 PM
I bought one not long ago to fit to a fazer and when you buy it you get a template,

A little tip when drilling into a screen or a Number plate ETC, place a piece of tape where you want to drill, stops your drill bit sliding across. 

You can make a template easy and check where to drill before you make a mistake or make it skewiff ..


"Measure twice cut once"    :028:
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Persimmon on 21 September, 2015, 02:34:57 PM
Richard decided not to buy so ...
The Spoiler is in the For Sale section if anyone is interested

Alan
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: ManuelAlberto on 04 October, 2015, 07:17:28 PM
*Originally Posted by Persimmon [+]
My 2009 came with a MRA Vario screen.
The Vario has the screen and an attached adjustable spoiler.

I have enjoyed riding at "slightly above 70 mph" !!! and the windblast is pretty good indeed.

However I noticed that MRA do a larger X-creen spoiler and I wondered if that would make it even better.

Luckily the supplier is just up the motorway from me so I went up and having discussed the options realised that I could indeed add the larger screen spoiler to my existing screen with minimal effort and so it was a purchase I had to make.

The larger spoiler is a good 2-3 inches bigger in height and wider by a few inches as well.

The small spoiler on my bike has a single ratchet adjustment but the larger X creen spoiler has a two way ratchet adjustment allowing for increasing height and angle adjustments so offering far greater options and protection.

Both ratchets have a lock on either side but it's a simple turn 45 degrees.

On the motorway and hitting 80-90 mph plus its very good indeed and I would recommend it.

The spoiler needs to be built but took about 15 mins. Instructions were good.
Taking off the existing spoiler and adding the new X creen spoiler took 1 minute. Simples.

I have tried to attach a few pictures to show before and after images and hope they come out.

Before -

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af307/alandaly/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20001_zpsrlhatig9.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/alandaly/media/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20001_zpsrlhatig9.jpg.html)

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af307/alandaly/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20004_zpsdwtbkobc.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/alandaly/media/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20004_zpsdwtbkobc.jpg.html)
After -

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af307/alandaly/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20007_zpsry0ypqrd.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/alandaly/media/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20007_zpsry0ypqrd.jpg.html)

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af307/alandaly/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20006_zpsnyajkkur.jpg) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/alandaly/media/Honda%20Vario%20screen%20pics%20006_zpsnyajkkur.jpg.html)


I have set the new spoiler at a medium setting for the moment but it can go a lot higher should I wish.

It is said putting on a Vario Touring is like riding a new bike. All I can say by adding the X creen to my bike it is a strong improvement.

Alan
Hi persimmon is your bike the MK1 or the mk2?? I have the same screen and will love to get just the spoiler to change it on my one too. Please let me know thanks.
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Persimmon on 04 October, 2015, 07:27:23 PM
Manuel
My bike is a Mark 1 from 2009 but if you have the same screen then the spoiler will auto fit. Either the standard spoiler or the larger spoiler versions I recently purchased.

Alan
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: PEMCBF on 04 October, 2015, 09:45:56 PM
I've got a Mk2 and the screen in the highest position is horrendous for helmet buffeting, so had to drop it to the lowest position - I'm only 5ft 7"! so what is the design point? - just purely marketing and a waste of OEM money!
Bought an MRA "touring screen" with the x-creen deflector. I thought when it said it was a "touring screen" it would be taller than the OEM - it is exactly the same height. So just causes the same buffeting!! & the taller adjustable x-creen still lets the same turbulence underneath it. So an absolute waste of over 100+.
Buy a TALLER screen with a forward flip top edge is my advice - or just put the screen on it's lowest position.
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: caretaker69 on 05 October, 2015, 08:26:51 PM
I recently bought an add on for the standard screen on my cbf100. It cost 44 including postage from a company on the Internet and it screws directly onto the top of my standard screen. A brilliant bit of kit. ( it also fits on the top of the screen on my BT 1100 Bulldog with the same excellent results, and only takes a few minutes to change it from one bike to another.)
I can't quite work out why manufacturers don't fit a useable screen as standard.
Ditto with comfortable seats, and centre stands!
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Persimmon on 05 October, 2015, 08:33:12 PM
If you could provide a link might be useful for anyone interested
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: caretaker69 on 05 October, 2015, 10:32:18 PM
Link for a very good add on screen deflector which is "universal" on our style of bike.
Log on to eBay, put in Moto Adventure clear windscreen deflector. Costs 42.95 plus about 2 postage. I use on my cbf1000 and also on my Bt1100 Bulldog.
It works equally well on both bikes, allowing buffet free riding, and only takes a few moments with an Allen key to change from one bike to another.... No drilling holes...
I have covered 2000 miles using it. I am 5'8" tall, and the deflector is adjustable if you are taller or shorter. Before fitting the deflector, the wind buffeting would loosen your fillings.
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Biker Mike on 06 October, 2015, 06:30:08 AM
Here's a posting that shows that the MRA screen (with the Xcreen) is identical to the OEM screen.
https://www.cbf1000.com/index.php/topic,12623 (https://www.cbf1000.com/index.php/topic,12623)
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: richardcbf on 06 October, 2015, 08:19:13 AM
*Originally Posted by caretaker69 [+]
Link for a very good add on screen deflector which is "universal" on our style of bike.
Log on to eBay, put in Moto Adventure clear windscreen deflector. Costs 42.95 plus about 2 postage. I use on my cbf1000 and also on my Bt1100 Bulldog.
It works equally well on both bikes, allowing buffet free riding, and only takes a few moments with an Allen key to change from one bike to another.... No drilling holes...
I have covered 2000 miles using it. I am 5'8" tall, and the deflector is adjustable if you are taller or shorter. Before fitting the deflector, the wind buffeting would loosen your fillings.
Nice one, here's a link to the seller's eBay shop section for Wind Deflectors...
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/moto-adventure/WIND-DEFLECTORS-/_i.html?_fsub=1071909519&_sop=2&rt=nc (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/moto-adventure/WIND-DEFLECTORS-/_i.html?_fsub=1071909519&_sop=2&rt=nc)

I like the look of the one's priced at 47.99
Here's a photo showing fitment to CBF1000 and link to the manufacturers web page....
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.darkojak.rkr.pl/Deflektor/honda%20cbf%20600.jpg)

http://www.darkojak.rkr.pl/Deflektor/ (http://www.darkojak.rkr.pl/Deflektor/)
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: ManuelAlberto on 08 October, 2015, 09:36:47 PM
*Originally Posted by Persimmon [+]
Manuel
My bike is a Mark 1 from 2009 but if you have the same screen then the spoiler will auto fit. Either the standard spoiler or the larger spoiler versions I recently purchased.

Alan
Hi Alan. I jus fitted the xcreen to the hike and it does make the difference
*Originally Posted by Persimmon [+]
Manuel
My bike is a Mark 1 from 2009 but if you have the same screen then the spoiler will auto fit. Either the standard spoiler or the larger spoiler versions I recently purchased.

Alan
Hi Alan. I jus fitted the xcreen to the hike and it does make the difference. Here are some pictures
*Originally Posted by Persimmon [+]
Manuel
My bike is a Mark 1 from 2009 but if you have the same screen then the spoiler will auto fit. Either the standard spoiler or the larger spoiler versions I recently purchased.

Alan
Hi Alan. I jus fitted the xcreen to the hike and it does make the difference. Here are some pictures
*Originally Posted by Persimmon [+]
Manuel
My bike is a Mark 1 from 2009 but if you have the same screen then the spoiler will auto fit. Either the standard spoiler or the larger spoiler versions I recently purchased.

Alan
Hi Alan. I jus fitted the xcreen to the hike and it does make the difference. Here are some pictures
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: macdoc on 08 October, 2015, 11:48:22 PM
I think the vents are a very important aspect.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=files.bs-motoparts.eu/images/mra/verkleidungsscheiben/66107933-1.jpg)

The best touring screen I was ever behind was the factory Honda ST1100 touring screen which also had angled vents like that.

At 150 kph was like sitting in the living room ...but move you head 6" to either side and it's a wind tunnel.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=images.mcn.bauercdn.com/classifieds/dealer/3289547/1791696796/2.jpg)
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Persimmon on 09 October, 2015, 08:18:13 AM
*Originally Posted by ManuelAlberto [+]
Hi Alan. I just fitted the xcreen to the bike and it does make the difference. Here are some pictures

Excellent.
Pleased you are happy.
Glad I put it on my bike as the ride is so much better than before and as I am riding it thats the most important thing !!

Alan
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: Biker Mike on 09 October, 2015, 09:06:26 AM
*Originally Posted by macdoc [+]
The best touring screen I was ever behind was the factory Honda ST1100 touring screen which also had angled vents like that.
At 150 kph was like sitting in the living room ...but move you head 6" to either side and it's a wind tunnel.
Makes you wonder why Honda would go and change it on the 1300?
Form over function I guess.
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: macdoc on 09 October, 2015, 07:44:19 PM
Yep - cops that rode both generally preferred the ST1100 over the 1300.

Got the Vario screen and it certainly helps. I was riding into a howling North Wind so a bit hard to assess.
The taller one I'd prefer to have a bit of choice but something a couple inches wider would help. We'll see in calmer conditions.
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: macdoc on 07 June, 2020, 08:45:40 PM
Back on a 2008 biffer and was annoyed with the buffeting

Wow ...  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MJTJTK1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61vOZHdHoXL._AC_SL1001_.jpg)

Best $50 evah. Common complaint on the cbf1000 and this fixes it.
Likely work on a lot of bikes,
Seems identical to expensive MRA Vario but waaaay less money. Fiddly to assemble but worth the effort. Extended my touring range big time. I avoided this route before as way too expensive and never sure it would work. It does and it's cheap
Looks a bit ugly but the quiet is worth it.
Title: Re: MRA Vario screen two piece solutions - Standard v Xcreen Tour
Post by: macdoc on 08 June, 2020, 11:03:47 PM
Just a follow up ...this thing works the charm but it lost a part on the highway ...another rider had the same thing happen - I think it is an avoidable situation but caveat emptor. At least Amazon allows returns.