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CBF1000 => CBF1000 - General Discussion => Topic started by: Gizmo on 07 October, 2014, 06:47:56 PM

Title: First Impressions
Post by: Gizmo on 07 October, 2014, 06:47:56 PM
OK, I bought one 5 days ago, a blue one, an A7 with 13k on the clock, with Givi luggage and I thought I share some first impressions which may help folks like me who don't know what to expect.

These thoughts are after my first 5 commuting days, so about 600 miles.
The old beemer - 2004 R1150RS - had to go as the vibes were getting worse and despite the mechanics best efforts I was heading for H.A.V.S. - not good.

The CBF is way comfier despite being a tiny bike in comparison. Sitting on the RS after test riding the CBF made it feel so cramped.
Ironically, despite it's size but due to the mirrors, it's way more difficult to thread through the traffic!

The engine feels so smooth in comparison and is amazingly tractable and will pull fairly well in 6th from 25mph upwards. The BM was crap at any less than 2500rpm so filtering was always a 2nd or 3rd gear affair. The CBF is happy in 3rd-4th-5th.
Trouble being a lack of gear indicator and an engine that feels like it needs several more gears so I'm often trying to change up before realising I'm in 6th already.
Despite 70ish mph coming at a sky high 4,500rpm it still turns in 52mpg on a 50/50 mix of A road and London filtering.
Will fit a bigger front sprocket at chain replacement.

OE screen has gone; saddle full down and screen full up means the wind hits you in the neck with palpable pressure across the throat.
Replaced with MRA Vario - better but needs fine tuning.

Mirrors are an irritation and will have to go for some proper snap-backs. Big and clear on the A-roads but mounted on the fairing so you lose all wiggle movement for filtering. They are high enough to go over most car mirrors but are perfectly aligned with most 4x4 and van mirrors!!
Think I'm currently filtering more slowly than on the BM.

Over all I like the bike, it's comfy, sounds OK, the kids like the look of it and is no more fuel hungry than the BM.

However, the people who designed and signed off on the main stand design need a swift boot in the gonads.
It's horrible, it's rubbish and is a massive fail point.
I can roll a 700lb BMW onto it's mainstand with ease. This thing though.....
There's nothing to hold on to, no cut outs or levers anywhere near the normal 'lift' point.
That heavens for the Givi pannier rail as a handhold (until it gives way).
You haul it up and over the balance point and it crashes to rest, then takes a huge pull to get it off the stand again.

If anyone knows of a properly designed aftermarket mainstand - please say!

Heading for winter now so the next job is fitting hotgrips.
Fortunately the bike came with extender, hugger and ScottOiler.

Well, that's week one over.
Most of my minor niggles are just a case of adapting (especially rpm) but not the stand, that I do not like.
I'll try to add some more impressions as bits wear out and get replaced.
And 16k service in 5 weeks....
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: maninthejar on 07 October, 2014, 07:10:44 PM
Hi from a fellow BMW refugee, I traded my 04 R1150RT for a 2010 CBF a couple of weeks ago and concur with most of what you say. I had fitted GS inlets to the RT and carried out a regular TBS which helps the low speed running and gets rid of the hole at 4500rpm but for an 1150 twin they do need a surprising amount of revs to pull away.

I have a set of Oxford Touring Hot Grips on the way which will get fitted soon and have also fitted knuckle deflectors.

Re the main stand it is not as important as on the BM because you don't need to worry about oil collecting in one rocker when on the side stand and the resultant cloud of blue smoke when you start up after it sits for a while plus the RT side stand was a bit wimpy for the weight of the bike so there is a tendency to use the main stand more.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Rustyrig on 07 October, 2014, 08:06:33 PM
The effort to put the bike on the main stand is minimal, do a search because believe it or not there is a correct way to put it on the stand, do it and it's loads easier.   
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: richardcbf on 08 October, 2014, 07:40:35 AM
*Originally Posted by Gizmo [+]
......However, the people who designed and signed off on the main stand design need a swift boot in the gonads.
It's horrible, it's rubbish and is a massive fail point.
I can roll a 700lb BMW onto it's mainstand with ease. This thing though.....
There's nothing to hold on to, no cut outs or levers anywhere near the normal 'lift' point.
That heavens for the Givi pannier rail as a handhold (until it gives way).
You haul it up and over the balance point and it crashes to rest, then takes a huge pull to get it off the stand again.

If anyone knows of a properly designed aftermarket mainstand - please say!....

.....Most of my minor niggles are just a case of adapting (especially rpm) but not the stand, that I do not like....

*Originally Posted by Rustyrig [+]
The effort to put the bike on the main stand is minimal, do a search because believe it or not there is a correct way to put it on the stand, do it and it's loads easier.   

I've not thought about lack of 'lift point', probably because mine (with the oem main stand) has the Honda pannier racks (attached to same points as those where grab handles would otherwise be) which have integrated grab rails which for me are fine as a hold point.
Maybe there's a fault with your main stand, because my experience is the same as Rustyrig in as much as it's a matter of technique* rather than effort to get the bike up and down.

*UP
Left hand on left handlebar grip + right hand on left 'grab' point + right foot on main stand lever.
Then 'push down' with the right foot on the stand (when it's touching the ground) while applying a small amount of lift with arms.
i.e., more force for push down with foot than lift.
DOWN
Put side stand down (just in case!)
Left hand on left handlebar grip + right hand on left 'grab' point.
'Rock' bike forward in a single move with most force applied by right arm to 'pull' bike forward.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: alan sh on 08 October, 2014, 08:33:37 AM
I sort of agree with Gizmo. If you have the standard bike without the Honda rack, it is hard as there is no proper grab point at the rear. However, if you do have a Honda rack, it's a piece of cake.

Alan
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: tigertail on 08 October, 2014, 11:13:11 AM
For me the CBF has been the easiest bike to get on the 'stand, with or without panniers.  The main thing is to put your bodyweight onto the stand and gently guide it with handlebar and rear grabrail/pannier rail.  Hardly any physical effort required.  See the Wiki post here:

http://cbf1000.wikispot.org/Placing_the_Bike_on_Centrestand (http://cbf1000.wikispot.org/Placing_the_Bike_on_Centrestand)

Maybe if it is a second hand bike someone has lowered the suspension without lowering the 'stand to match?

TT
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Gizmo on 08 October, 2014, 01:05:20 PM
Thanks for the support Alan.
Iím aware of the technique vs. force argument and Iím sure Iíll find the right technique for this bike.
But as a first impression...it's not coming naturally :003:

The standard Ďwing-likeí grab handles are too far back to be of much use. Hold the grab handle and the handlebar and Iím stretched quite wide.
Looking at pics, the Honda rack seems to give an extra grab handle forward of this which does explain the different opinions a bit.
AFAIK, my last 5-6 bikes have all had something near to the pillion saddle to get hold of, something this one doesnít.
I seem to remember my GSX1100EFE was difficult though.

Also, I think body weight and weight distribution are playing a large part here. The CBF feels more front biased than the BM which is exacerbated by me having a slight frame meaning there is less to bear down on the stand with.

Headlights are on my agenda too, low beam perfectly aimed, high beam in the treetops! Weird.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Vulcanbike on 08 October, 2014, 01:39:11 PM
I concur in the extra effort required to use the centre stand. My former Suzuki V-Strom which weighed about the same required much less effort to put the bike on the centre stand. The differance I have noticed  with the Honda is you are lifting the whole bike, as when you are up the bike is balanced on the stand. Just placing my helmet in the trunk will cause the bike to tip from front wheel down to back wheel down. The Suzuki when up on stand had substantial pressure still on the front wheel.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: r32 on 09 October, 2014, 12:34:37 PM
Many feel that the CBF is under geared, and some have even changed sprockets. But the bike is an easy revving straight smooth four. Rather than a relatively low revving twin. So if you project your speed at max revs in sixth you'll see that it's pretty damn fast. So in my honest opinion I feel it's well geared. I've found mine no problem travelling almost a thousand miles with luggage sat at 80 to 85.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Gizmo on 09 October, 2014, 06:36:08 PM
It certainly is easy revving and smooth but I'd also say the gearbox also belies it's ancestry.
The rev shift at a given speed between 5th and 6th is minimal, I'd expect a longer step for a touring or general purpose machine.

The move from the boxer is mind set and adjustment, if I'd never ridden a big twin I wouldn't have the same adjustment to make, I'd just take it as the norm.
As the title of the thread says - these are my first impressions and the countering views are interesting and go to prove we're a varied bunch :018:

Although the engine will run quite happily in 5/6 around town, the lack of quick drive means that 4-5 are better options.
Going up a tooth should take cruising speed below the 5000 rpm buzz, make it more economical and not hinder town work which is what I need for my commute.

Going off topic - my Hein Gerike 'Rhino' boots have just started leaking (stitching!!) after 9 years and c180,000 miles of all weather riding. Bummer.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Rev Ken on 09 October, 2014, 08:13:51 PM
I found getting my Biffer on its centre stand was quite easy when new, (I've got Honda top box with grab handles replacing the 'hooks') but as the mileage got larger it got progressively harder as the rear shock started to sag. I was surprised how critical the ground clearance is when using the centre stand. I found even a plank no thicker than 1.5 cm under uthe rear wheel made it a dawdle when I just couldn't get it on the centre stand without it. I confess I only use the centre stand when oiling my chain or washing the bike.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: knapdog on 09 December, 2014, 03:29:49 PM
Received  my mk2 this morning from courier. Bike has only done 145 miles from new and was  in showroom condition.
However  as it was coming  down the ramp the courier pointed out that there was  a slight dink on the fairing  when he picked it up.
I have now phoned and forwarded  a photo of this blemish to the dealer in Edinburgh  and await their reply.
I took it for a thirty mile spin and these are my findings (last bike was a Tiger 800):
1. Very quiet, very smooth engine
2. A gearbox like silk with no difficulty  finding neutral.
3. Feet firmly on the ground
4. Comfortable
5. Low centre  of  gravity.
6. Manoeuvrable
7. Nice easy clutch
I loved it.
But did notice I was getting  buffeting around a bit more than previous bikes.
The mirrors had been loosened and turned in for transportation. I've  now positioned  them but at a bit of a right angle to the bike. Do you tend to rake them in a bit more?
I also had the screen in its lowest position.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: knapdog on 11 December, 2014, 02:52:10 PM
*Originally Posted by knapdog [+]
Received  my mk2 this morning from courier. Bike has only done 145 miles from new and was  in showroom condition.
However  as it was coming  down the ramp the courier pointed out that there was  a slight dink on the fairing  when he picked it up.
I have now phoned and forwarded  a photo of this blemish to the dealer in Edinburgh  and await their reply.
I took it for a thirty mile spin and these are my findings (last bike was a Tiger 800):
1. Very quiet, very smooth engine
2. A gearbox like silk with no difficulty  finding neutral.
3. Feet firmly on the ground
4. Comfortable
5. Low centre  of  gravity.
6. Manoeuvrable
7. Nice easy clutch
I loved it.
But did notice I was getting  buffeting around a bit more than previous bikes.
The mirrors had been loosened and turned in for transportation. I've  now positioned  them but at a bit of a right angle to the bike. Do you tend to rake them in a bit more?
I also had the screen in its lowest position.
......... and here it is...

Pyramid  hugger  fitted along with  Beowulf  radiator  guard  and Pyramid fender  extender.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b559/knapdog/20141211_132158_zpsqjxskvrf.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/knapdog/media/20141211_132158_zpsqjxskvrf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Biker Mike on 11 December, 2014, 03:09:50 PM
Looks really nice.
Very shiny (although I'm guessing you've fluorescent tubes in your garage).
Be a shame to hang luggage on it,
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: knapdog on 11 December, 2014, 04:16:35 PM
*Originally Posted by Biker Mike [+]
Looks really nice.
Very shiny (although I'm guessing you've fluorescent tubes in your garage).
Be a shame to hang luggage on it,
Just an old 100w bulb hanging from the ceiling. Before  next summer  I shall be looking for the hard side panniers  and top box to go touring. I'm  bracing myself to have to buy new as they  rarely  come up second hand.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: phild on 11 December, 2014, 04:25:01 PM
What did the dealer say about the damage.?
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: knapdog on 12 December, 2014, 10:58:35 AM
*Originally Posted by phild [+]
What did the 8dealer say about the damage.?
Due to the chap I dealt with  being on holiday,  I have  to  wait til Saturday  for a  phone call from  him.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Brit182 on 12 December, 2014, 03:10:08 PM
I'd say that was my bike but the garage is to tidy!  :008:
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: knapdog on 14 December, 2014, 09:56:16 AM
*Originally Posted by phild [+]
What did the dealer say about the damage.?

Two Wheels Honda Edinburgh were brilliant. I told them that the courier had noticed the mark on the fairing when he picked it up originally. The dink can hardly be seen out in the open but of course, within the shadows of the garage it now sticks out like a sore thumb.I can certainly understand how they missed it. They asked for a couple of photos of the dink and phoned me back on Saturday. They would be willing to send a courier down to pick up the bike and give me a full refund or would I accept £100 as some form of recompense. I gratefully accepted the cheque which they will put in the post on Monday and I can now put this towards a repair or simply put up with it.
Thank you Two Wheels. :031:  :123: :028: :046: :oldie:
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Gizmo on 26 January, 2015, 01:04:16 AM
I said I'd add more thoughts as time went on so here goes.

3 months and 6,000 miles further on I'm feeling more at home but still go looking for 7th and 8th gears or the repeated check that 'yes - I'm still in 6th'.

Overall I'm happy with the bike but looking forward to the next changes - decent tyres and raised gearing.

Getting used to the mainstand, still say it's a weird angle but more used to the backward push required.

Mirrors are still difficult, haven't found any snap-backs yet but filtering is improved by removing the spacing blocks and using shorter bolts to mount directly against the fairing. Down side is that the narrowed angle means they can no longer cover the road directly behind the rider but fitting a wedge shape blindspot mirror changes the angle enough to now see directly behind.
Makes them about 3" narrower which is a lot on the road.

Not having the boxer vibes and a better position mean that my onset H.A.V.S has almost gone and my shoulder problems have also gone.  :046: :047: :046:

OE Front pads replaced at 17,000; wait to see if EBC gives better performance and life.

ScottOiler is proving really difficult to get right as our weather fluctuates so much at the moment - one day running dry, the next over oiled.

Vario screen adjusted as well as it'll get - it's OK, may look again in a few years time.

Original Bridgestones are coming to the end of their life, not so good at 17k. Michelin by end Feb I think.

Original headlight bulbs replaced with Ultra-Brights from Halfords, big difference.
Main beam aim is now correct - was seriously miles off - and took lots of tweaking to get right.
Putting the rubber cap back on the main beam light housing has been the cause of much swearing and cursing - who the hell designed that?? But am now a dab hand at removing the screen and dash inner in double quick time :015:

Oxford Hot Grips fitted - very easy job.

16k service done at Honda (without valves) has revealed the scariest thing yet - I've now got to start washing the bike.  :005: :005:
Honda dealers don't wash it?!?
One of the things about BMW is that they wash the bike before service - and a service every 13 weeks meant the bikes all stayed in reasonable nick.

Morning temperatures haven't dropped too far (-6C the lowest yet) but have shown that the old Boxer fable of cylinder heads keeping toes toasty - is actually true.

I'll see what happens but maybe a further update at 30k ish.

Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: knapdog on 26 January, 2015, 07:39:34 AM
Thank you for your informative  report Gizmo.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Rev Ken on 26 January, 2015, 09:31:25 PM
My Honda dealer always washes my bike, and I get it treated with ACF50 once a year so I don't need to wash it very often.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Brit182 on 26 January, 2015, 11:30:58 PM
Yeah, so does mine but it's a bit expensive on those occasions when the only thing else they do is an oil change!

Now the warrenty is up I think I'll do both myself!  :001:
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Gizmo on 22 December, 2015, 03:17:29 PM
Hi all,
Continuing to add information onto this post for anyone who wants a blow by blow account.
11 months and 2 services since my last post - been away a bit so a lower mileage than usual - and it's just gone through another MOT, 24k service and 32k service.
24k was the first top to toe inc. valves and the good news was nothing to do beyond usual consumables. Valves all within tolerances, chain fine and all bearings still smooth. So probably won't check the valves again until 50k.

HMC did get a little grease happy around the gearchange pivot which actually meant 1st was almost impossible to select on the road. Return, remove some grease and good to go.

MOT clean bill of health with just an advisory for (barely) notchy head races.

32k service - regular consumables, adjust head races and that's it.

Have fitted some CREE 10w LED spots, great for the lanes but useless as town/A-road riding lights. There is a shed load of light wash covering a huge area around the hot spot that does dazzle and piss off everyone in front or coming towards.
More a flood light than a spotlight.
Will rewire to high beam and fit something else to boost town/road visibility.

EBC pads fitted at 17k still good.

Original chain and sprockets still good.

Pilot road 3's fitted at around 20k still have plenty of tread so should be good through the winter into spring. 20k was a usual life from PR2/3 on my BMWs.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: NeiljohnUK on 22 December, 2015, 03:31:38 PM
http://www.bikevis.com/motorcycle-running-lights (http://www.bikevis.com/motorcycle-running-lights) are good, another Blue Biffer rider in 'Ampshir'.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Gizmo on 31 December, 2015, 04:20:46 PM
*Originally Posted by NeiljohnUK [+]
http://www.bikevis.com/motorcycle-running-lights (http://www.bikevis.com/motorcycle-running-lights) are good, another Blue Biffer rider in 'Ampshir'.

Thanks, have looked at those but was undecided, looks like they'll be my best option in amber.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: bghonda on 03 January, 2016, 08:21:12 PM
*Originally Posted by knapdog [+]
Just an old 100w bulb hanging from the ceiling. Before  next summer  I shall be looking for the hard side panniers  and top box to go touring. I'm  bracing myself to have to buy new as they  rarely  come up second hand.

Hi, I have a 2011 cbf, It has a genuine Honda top box fitted, I bought the bike second hand, it was already fitted :-).
I have bought a pair of new Givi pannier's, side pannier bars to follow. My wife and I are planning a trip to Bulgaria in July, I must add I've never done anything like this before lol.

My bike Seinna Red, so I'm going to get the pannier lids painted the same colour as the bike, but if you look on ebay there's a full genuine set, top box, panniers and frames for £700, it's described as new having been removed from a demonstrator bike.   
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Gizmo on 10 January, 2017, 02:32:09 PM
Just giving this an update - if the mods think enough is enough then feel free to lock the thread.

2 more services down - 40k and 48k - but the next is probably going to be a biggie!

Current mileage 52k

Nothing to report from last 2 services and another MOT with no advisories whatsoever.
EBC Pads fitted at 17k still going strong.

BikeVis amber lights were really dim and burned out quickly - replaced FOC with white by BikeVis.

Electrax stator fitted at 20k predictably burnt out at 43k. Next burn out planned for Jan/Feb 2018!
Spoke to the company though and they're working on a new version to hopefully overcome the design faults from Honda.

Original Chain and Sprockets finally need to be replaced but I suppose 52k is a reasonable life for them. Would like to raise the gearing which is going to be troublesome since the bike doesn't have the old fashioned speedo drive from the front wheel. Now driven from the gearbox so changing the sprocket size will throw the speedo out - stupid f...... design.
Potentially an indicated 80 will actually be 80 and the 8,000 service interval could be every 7,480. Gonna get complicated!

Tyres have had it again - Pilot Road 4's lasting around 18-20k. Annoying, trying to find some PR2s

Starting to dive more on the brakes now and an odd 'tick' noise from one fork on braking indicating that the fork oil is going to need replacing. PITA job as the forks don't come with a drain plug so have to be removed to drain.

Fitted a pair of TucanoUrbano R333 bar muffs for this winter. Streets ahead of the Oxford offering, no push back onto the grips, easy in and out, very good. Should've switched years ago.

Replaced one headlamp and one brakelight bulb too.
Bodywork condition holding up OK, last washed in September - might need cleaning again soonish.

Seems this is going to be one of those bikes that just needs to be used.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: alan sh on 10 January, 2017, 04:31:05 PM
I don't uderstand how you get 18-20K out of tyres and 52k out of a chain. Miraculous. :046:
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Montblanc on 10 January, 2017, 05:03:34 PM
Must be kilometers!?!
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Gizmo on 10 January, 2017, 05:49:30 PM
Kilometers? What are those? :016:

Just smooth, upright and Scottoiled. The penalty of a 90 mile per day commute.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Bloitz on 10 January, 2017, 06:11:33 PM
*Originally Posted by Gizmo [+]
Kilometers? What are those? :016:

Just smooth, upright and Scottoiled. The penalty of a 90 mile per day commute.

Wait, what? 18 - 20k miles from a PR4? And having the audacity to call that annoying?  :008:
 
For the sake of statistics (you know, people googling PR4 mileage trying to get an idea before purchasing): I did about 6850 miles with my rear. Could have probably stretched it to 7k but that would be well into the wear bars and I was fed up with it. Simply lost confidence in it. Still a good tyre but not the holy grail I hoped for.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Rev Ken on 10 January, 2017, 06:23:46 PM
7,500 miles for both rear and front tyres  on PR4s with 'enthusiastic' riding. Approx 1,000 left, but I always replace tyres before they are near the legal limit.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Montblanc on 10 January, 2017, 08:02:33 PM
I normally get 10k on a set of PR4s. I just replaced my chain and sprockets at 32k. Take me to your supplier ... they have better stuff than I can get over here on the continent.

:300:
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Gizmo on 20 July, 2017, 10:32:18 AM
Starting to turn this into a 'life story' so tell me to 'shurrup wut' if enough is enough.

58,000 (ish) miles.

Well, the white BikeVis lights sent to replace the amber ones that burned out have - you guessed it - burned out. So they're heading for the bin.
Chain, sprockets (18t front) and tyres all replaced, trying out Metzeler RoadTec. Rear tyre managed a whole 2 weeks (900 mi) before picking up a nail. :172:
Squaring off already so not sure how long these will last.
They do seem quite grippy though as my boots will testify - getting chamfered due to frequent touching down in corners.

10 months and 15k mi and the Electrex stator has burned out again. Hadn't expected this until January '18 so hadn't yet bought in the replacement ready; so off the road again. :013: Hoping they'll replace this one under their 12 month warranty so at this rate could get free stators for life.

Engine's getting a bit 'ticky' so I think the clearances are going to need adjusting - not looking forward to that bill when it happens.

On the up side:
Fork oil finally replaced at 56k, not as long a life as the BMWs but not bad. Couple of hours in the workshop and job done.
Pads fitted at 17k are down to about their last 30-40% so maybe another year in them.

Still a decent workhorse but starting to get a 'what will break next feeling'.
Can't afford to replace it though so I guess I'll keep patching it up.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Montblanc on 20 July, 2017, 04:37:44 PM
I have 12.5k miles on my PR4's and have about 2k miles left according to my mechanic. Got 10k on the last pair and only difference was a bit more highway miles this time. Very pleased with the performance of the PR4s.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Gizmo on 20 November, 2017, 06:17:08 PM
In July I said
"Still a decent workhorse but starting to get a 'what will break next feeling'.
Can't afford to replace it though so I guess I'll keep patching it up."

Well, patching up continues...

61,000 ish miles.

Back into the workshop to replace the head races and get the valve clearances checked and adjusted.
Taking the shims out produced some interesting results. They were worn out.

Seriously, the shims were dished at the contact point! Better and bad example in the pic. So either not hardened properly or just loose enough that they were wearing away.

Honda were a pain with delivering the shims - order 16 / get 13 - chase remaining 3 / get 2 - chase last 1 / get 1 plus a bonus 2nd!

Finally back on the road and it looks as though the original battery is on it's way out.

Now for the real cherry on top - coming in to work this morning and the top rad hose has started leaking. Gentle ride home and hope it just needs resettling and tightening.

Wonder what will be next?
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Gizmo on 11 November, 2018, 05:25:27 PM
Wow, a whole year since the last update.
Well, regular consumables have been replaced, stator number 4 burned out in May 2018, yet another one replaced under 1 year guarantee.
Electrex suspected that a faulty reg/rec might be having an impact so that has been replaced with one of their units too.

Certainly made a difference - only 6 months life and number 5 has burned out. Just not sure how much longer they will go along with the warranty though.
They always seem to burn out on a Friday, and always when I'm at work (get to office OK but no juice to come home) so I though I'd be clever.
Keep a battery at the office and a small charger, top it up, swap the battery and enough juice to get home - that was the plan. This time though there was enough to get the bike running for the first 40mins until dying in heavy traffic on the A3 in the dark and in the rain.
2.75 hours for AA to collect despite being in a high risk situation. Just as bad as the RAC but that's another story.

To be honest I think the bike is coming to the end of it's life at a meager 80.000 miles.
Neutral light is playing up, starter button is getting iffy (need to pull it back out to get the lights) and the indicator switch module needs to be pushed in a particular way to indicate right. The ignition switch module is sticking despite lubrication and it's due another monster service and valve check.
The chain is sounding creaky after only 26k and the Scott-Oiler now only has 2 conditions - On and Empty.

Now I'm going to make amount for a spare battery in the topbox and wire it in with a simple switch. If I keep it topped up then when the stator fails again I can just switch it over and at least get home. Just need to get through the winter and then get rid.
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Rev Ken on 13 November, 2018, 12:57:04 PM
You must hold the record for failed stators! :005: OK my Biffer (now with my son) has only done 30.000 miles or so but is still on its original stator, and it hasn't been molly-coddled! (I am an 'enthusiastic' rider but hope my son isn't, especially with his wife on the back!) :182: His other bike is a tuned Blackbird and considers MY Biffer as HIS moped...... :192:
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: Leofric on 13 November, 2018, 10:29:31 PM
Have Honda suggested any reason why so many stators have failed ?
Title: Re: First Impressions
Post by: bocca on 25 November, 2018, 10:02:27 PM
Well, this was fun. A whole biffer career packed into 15 minutes of reading. Getting paranoid here atm :D

The intertesting thing is, bunch of these issues are mostly observed on the Island. Starting to thing biffer doesn't like rain a wet climate.  :125: