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Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring / Re: Rectifier or Stator Fail?
« Last post by maxstu on 04 March, 2023, 07:27:15 pm »
Yep. All above is correct.
Tomorrow will take vAC readings from isolated new JMP stator.

Will report back tomorrow.
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On Two Wheels / Re: Totes Waterproof Overboots
« Last post by Art on 04 March, 2023, 06:57:16 pm »
I was gifted a pair of tote over boots and found them to be totally useless, couldn't get them to fit over a UK size 8 motorcycle boot.

My current weapon of choice for a cheap pair of waterproof motorcycle boots is the JTS Tourmax Wide-Fit Waterproof Motorcycle Boots currently 89.99. They are waterproof straight out of the box but will, just like other leather/PU boots, require a goodly boot polishing from time to time. I've had them for 2 years now and they've seen plenty of service in the rain and I can't fault them. They're wide fit too.

Another solution maybe Sealskinz socks, I've never tried their socks but do have a pair of Sealskinz gloves which are 100% waterproof and breathable.
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Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring / Re: Starting Problems
« Last post by Art on 04 March, 2023, 06:33:58 pm »
I don't know what the battery mounting angle is for the later 2010-2013 SC64 model is but the Yuasa YTZ10S is the OEM. Other batteries are available such as the Varta TTZ10S-BS which can be mounted at a 45 angle and had at half the price of the reassuringly expensive Yuasa.

Other batteries are available too, do the research and read the small print regarding mounting angle. Of course if you have the earlier original SC58 2006-2009 model mounting angle isn't an issue as the battery sits more or less upright.
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Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring / Re: Starting Problems
« Last post by MohKraats on 04 March, 2023, 06:15:46 pm »
Almost there

Yuasa YTZ10S

Ah, uhm, for the second type CBF1000F that is.
I dont know if the first type also uses this type.
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Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring / Re: Rectifier or Stator Fail?
« Last post by Art on 04 March, 2023, 05:57:29 pm »
Welcome back John

At one point or another Stuart has tried and tested two of everything here, x2 batteries, x2 stators, x2 regulator/rectifiers and has used x2 multimeters. It appears that whatever combination he applies he gets the same cold to hot voltage drop readings after running the engine for a matter of minutes and soon after that the battery's level of charge is too low to crank the engine. I  agree a lower than expected charging system output is the classic tell tale of a suspected failed RR or, an excessively overloaded battery especially with the battery losing charge so soon. However, Stuart has taken the readings directly off of the disconnected stator output connector! Therefore the stator is isolated from everything else which means that the root cause can only be either a failed stator or, a failed stator output cable or, a failed stator output connector or, the mode/procedure of testing.

I'm all out of suggestions.
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Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring / Re: Starting Problems
« Last post by Grumpy saint on 04 March, 2023, 05:53:17 pm »
Hi,so the proper battery is Yusas YTZ106. Is the one I want
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Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring / Re: Rectifier or Stator Fail?
« Last post by maxstu on 04 March, 2023, 05:19:34 pm »
Hello jm2,
and many thanks for the info.

Will read through your suggestions and action, then report back either tomorrow or Monday.

Regards
Stuart
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On Two Wheels / Totes Waterproof Overboots
« Last post by maz on 04 March, 2023, 03:57:13 pm »
Does anyone use these, they resemble a thin welly boot you pull over your riding boots? They are obviously going to be waterproof but how easy are they to pull on and off? I have tried various different types which vary from OK to dangerous because they get caught on the pegs. Putting them on inside sitting on a chair is one thing, outside with rain coming down is another. Incidentally all the riding boots I have had have been sold as waterproof, most are for a short time but none of them has been waterproof for any length of time.
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Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring / Re: Starting Problems
« Last post by MohKraats on 04 March, 2023, 01:32:09 pm »
Just adding

My wrong type of battery didn`t cause the cranking issues by the way......
Just cranking like an old man.

When not cranking at all,
despite the lights remaining on when pushing the start button, makes the starting relais suspect and a good candidate for inspection.
When the lights dimm extremely, or even die out when pushing the starting button, the battery is suspect.

In case it is the battery, first thing to check is if the battery still is charged when the bike is running.
Voltage meter shoul show the voltage going up when the bike isrunning.
Should quite quickly go above 13V minimal, up to max 14,4V when the battery is full.

Greez,
Moh
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Lighting, Electrical, and Wiring / Re: Starting Problems
« Last post by MohKraats on 04 March, 2023, 01:15:29 pm »
Small remark regarding the battery.

I discovered there is only one type battery that is officially precribed for this bike.
This with a reason.
That is the mounting position of the battery.
It is mounted tilted back quite far.
Only the precribed battery is delevering its full capacity tilted that far.
I experieced the difference.
The shop where I bought my bike had installed a cheaper Yuasa TTY type (still allso Yeasu AGM, same capacity)
The bike never cranked with much enthusiasm.
This till I exchanged it for the prescribed (more expensive :012: type) Yuasa YTZ10S
Cranking was a lot better.

More info on this on the Yuasa website:
https://www.yuasa.de/en/information/motorcycle-and-powersport/ytz-ttz-mounting-angles/

Greez,
Moh
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