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Offline stevief

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Headlight Bulb
« on: 10 February, 2020, 09:45:33 PM »
I have a CBF1000FA-B 2011 and the user guide says the headlight is 12V - 55w x2 I presume its a Halogen but is that an H4 bulb or an H7 or...? the bulb that has blown doesn't appear to have any markings on it at all!

I have found the dipped beam to be slightly inadequate on country roads (so I do resort to switching on high-beam but often have to switch back so as not to "blind" the oncoming traffic).
 
What bulbs do people recommend? Is it worth buying one of the LED conversion kits? Seem'd like £90 for converting both dipped and high-beam, is it worth it?

Seen this one on Ebay , does it seem OK?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LED-H7-Dual-headlight-Headlamp-Conversion-Honda-CBF1000A-ABS-CBF600/382387347599?hash=item59080fe08f:g:qV8AAOSwax5YubkU

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Re: Headlight Bulb
« Reply #1 on: 10 February, 2020, 10:17:17 PM »
It is an H7 bulb and I too found the stock 12v 55W Halogen bulb to be useless. Upgraded my dipped beam to a HID by way of a cheap as chips eBay deal for £10. The only downside was I had to fit an off/on switch for the headlamp because occasionally when cranking the starter motor the ballast would cut out and take hours re-set. You need to splice into the headlamp wiring for the ballast so fitting the switch isn't too much extra. While I was there I fitted a pair of CREE U5 LED DRL's, they come with their own switch. Now 5 years on and its still doing what it does and what it does is light the way ahead and it all meets the new MOT lighting regulations too. Something similar to these, ignore that the HID kit is for Yamaha its an H7 bulb and an H7 bulb is an H7 bulb.

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H7-6000K-HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-FOR-YAMAHA-R1-MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE/380425466146?hash=item58931ff122:g:lJcAAMXQoiJRhehJ

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2X-125W-U5-U7-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Headlight-LED-Fog-Spot-Lights-Bulb-Switch/312870513102?hash=item48d88929ce:m:mesWPA44J4PthKz908Xo9hw

If your set on LED's these look similar to the ones you've link at a more reasonable price

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2X-AUXITO-200W-H7-CREE-LED-Headlight-Bulb-High-Low-Beam-Conversion-Kit-Headlamp/123939275176?epid=8035111854&hash=item1cdb5b41a8:g:diIAAOSwi7RdpEqA

« Last Edit: 10 February, 2020, 10:28:55 PM by Art »

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Re: Headlight Bulb
« Reply #2 on: 12 February, 2020, 01:41:37 PM »
*Originally Posted by stevief [+]

I have found the dipped beam to be slightly inadequate on country roads (so I do resort to switching on high-beam but often have to switch back so as not to "blind" the oncoming traffic).


You do know that what you describe is correct use of high-beam don't you?  when no street lighting or oncoming traffic switch to 'main' (high) beam, so you can see far enough ahead.  You're supposed to 'dip' (switch to low beam only) when traffic is oncoming (so you don't dazzle them) or when you get behind other traffic going in the same direction.

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Re: Headlight Bulb
« Reply #3 on: 12 February, 2020, 04:51:09 PM »
Its not a question of seeing far enough ahead, the problem is you can barely see past the front wheel with the stock bulb. Add some flies, road fling, dirty rain etc and after a good days hard riding visibility is further reduced. With the dip beam upgraded with a HID bulb and DRL's fitted my way ahead is now virtually as clear as day all night long.

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Re: Headlight Bulb
« Reply #4 on: 12 February, 2020, 05:01:40 PM »
Stock bulbs are rubbish, couldn't agree  more with that.  I always buy Osram  nightbreakers (whichever is the newest best) or Philips extreme bulbs.  Just about adequate.  If your lights are getting that filthy then stop at a garage and clean them off as the darkness falls.

P.S.  What are DRLs doing on at night?  :182:  The clue is in the name  :084: -  Daytime Running Light: they are for you to be seen during the day: not for seeing where you are going in the dark.   :138:

Call them driving lights instead  :164: :164: :164:

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Re: Headlight Bulb
« Reply #5 on: 12 February, 2020, 06:25:26 PM »
Well slap me on the wrist, my upgraded lights are fine, they are for me to see where I'm going and don't need cleaning. My point is without them last weekends 700 mile sortie into North Wales and back would not have happened. Riding in extremes of weather including snow, sleet, rain and anything else Storm Ciara threw our way, often without any street lighting, requires headlamps and lights of a higher specification than 12v 55W halogens.

Sure both the Osram and Phillips bulbs are better than the stock bulb, how much better I don't know but I do know they are not as good as they'd want us to believe. What I question is why are the performance gains expressed as 'up to' and 'usually'? Probably because in reality the gains fall some way short of the claims.
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Re: Headlight Bulb
« Reply #6 on: 12 February, 2020, 11:26:59 PM »
*Originally Posted by YDraig [+]
Stock bulbs are rubbish, couldn't agree  more with that.  I always buy Osram  nightbreakers (whichever is the newest best) or Philips extreme bulbs.  Just about adequate.

My bike must have something similar as they’re white lights, I’d like to know the correct side light bulbs to get to match as they’re yellow. Anyone any ideas?
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Re: Headlight Bulb
« Reply #7 on: 13 February, 2020, 08:12:20 AM »
Halogen bulbs have a colour temperature of around 3000k which gives them their yellow tinge. If you want a whiter light you want zenon or zenon effect bulbs with a colour temperature nearer 4000K. The bulb type is W5W.






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Re: Headlight Bulb
« Reply #8 on: 13 February, 2020, 09:27:20 AM »
*Originally Posted by Crispy [+]
My bike must have something similar as they’re white lights, I’d like to know the correct side light bulbs to get to match as they’re yellow. Anyone any ideas?

I Got the OSRAM LED W5W bulbs.  Osram 2850WW-02B LED Premium Retrofit W2.1x9.5d, W5W, Interior Lights, 12 V, Warm White, Double Blister (Pack of 2)
These are white (same as the Osram night breaker extreme h7 bulbs)  :073: :073: :073: not the yellow of the normal filament bulb.

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Re: Headlight Bulb
« Reply #9 on: 13 February, 2020, 10:47:45 AM »
Thanks YDraig, found some of them Osram W5W led bulbs on eBay. I also noticed that they do them in amber for the turn lights, they’re meant to be a lot brighter. Maybe it’s a good idea to make the indicators brighter as well.

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