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Offline Jon the mow

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Re: Glove cuffs, under or over
« Reply #10 on: 29 December, 2019, 11:31:41 PM »
A massive thank you for all the wisdom that 1000ís of hours in the seat/ saddle ( sorry not sure ) have given you all.as a Reynard sufferer( cold hands)itís my only real obstacle , but Iíll tell you one thing , Iíll take all the advice,put it all together, and beat the cold, thank you all , Jon w

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Re: Glove cuffs, under or over
« Reply #11 on: 02 January, 2020, 10:59:44 AM »
Well, to my experience,
When commuting an 80km stretch day in day out, all year round,
When in a downpoor, or just steady rain all ride, I need to have my cuffs in my jacket sleeves, to prevent the water to run from my jacket sleeves into my gloves. Is nice to be able to tighten your sleeve ends by the way, to keep the draft out.
Although this will also depend on how you sit on your bike.
With apehangers, I can imagine this problem to be non existing, however driving in heavy rain with apehangers probably is too.

Against the cold (no heated grips), I found out that the only thing that works, is having cloves that allow your fingers to touch, so, either all finders together, or by the two.
What also will help, is keeping your hands out of the wind with protectors like the off-road bikes tend to have.

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Re: Glove cuffs, under or over
« Reply #12 on: 02 January, 2020, 04:18:31 PM »
Just to clarify I was talking of winter conditions. The cuffs of my Frank Thomas Aqua or Buffalo Storm winter gloves would not fit inside a jacket sleeve. On the other hand (see what I did there) my Frank Thomas summer gloves would not fit over a jacket sleeve. So in conclusion winter gloves outside the sleeve, summer gloves inside the sleeve.

+1 for hand guards or better still handlebar muffs for all year, all season riding. The warmest scenario I'm told is muffs + heated grips but I've not found I needed anything more than my Oxford Bone Dry Muffs (now superseded by their Rainseal muffs). Note riding with handlebar muffs is a little different than without because you can't put you hands on/off the bars so easily, you need to slide them in/out of the muffs which takes a little practice to perfect. Muffs also need to be supported against the wind stream to prevent them collapsing onto the backs of your hands, for this I use simple lever guards (not to be confused with hand guards).

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Re: Glove cuffs, under or over
« Reply #13 on: 02 January, 2020, 05:50:21 PM »
A few people have mentioned muffs, so I did some reading, it seems they may get some serious consideration if cold hand syndrome persists, good gloves, heated grips and muffs, thatís got to be a winner,mind you their flippin ugly 😂😂

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Re: Glove cuffs, under or over
« Reply #14 on: 24 August, 2020, 11:49:47 AM »
*Originally Posted by Art [+]
Just to clarify I was talking of winter conditions. The cuffs of my Frank Thomas Aqua or Buffalo Storm winter gloves would not fit inside a jacket sleeve. On the other hand (see what I did there) my Frank Thomas summer gloves would not fit over a jacket sleeve. So in conclusion winter gloves outside the sleeve, summer gloves inside the sleeve.

+1 for hand guards or better still handlebar muffs for all year, all season riding. The warmest scenario I'm told is muffs + heated grips but I've not found I needed anything more than my Oxford Bone Dry Muffs (now superseded by their Rainseal muffs). Note riding with handlebar muffs is a little different than without because you can't put you hands on/off the bars so easily, you need to slide them in/out of the muffs which takes a little practice to perfect. Muffs also need to be supported against the wind stream to prevent them collapsing onto the backs of your hands, for this I use simple lever guards (not to be confused with hand guards).

Well, how to do in summer depends where you drive, I think.
In summer, I also tend to have cuffs over my sleeves, to keep insects out.
When there are a lot of insects around, ....... well, the riders that ride through that kind of country will know what I am talking about.
Having a heavy insect in your sleeve while driving  :005: ain't much fun, especially not with the stinging type of insects  :172:.

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Re: Glove cuffs, under or over
« Reply #15 on: 25 August, 2020, 08:19:09 AM »
I can't quite believe that we're on the second page of a discussion about whether glove cuffs should be inside or outside a sleeve. :015:
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Re: Glove cuffs, under or over
« Reply #16 on: 25 August, 2020, 11:40:53 AM »
I can't believe folk here have summer gloves with big enough cuffs to fit outside their jacket sleeves. Or for that matter, winter gloves with cuffs small enough to tuck inside their jacket sleeves. All I can think is they have over specification summer gloves and under specification winter gloves.

I challenge the flying insect theory too. I once had a bee enter my jacket sleeve, I wasn't wearing gloves, it got as far as the crook of my elbow, stung me and paid the ultimate price. The sting was scary it ballooned to the size of a golf ball and prevented me from bending my arm for about 4 hours. In half a century of motorcycling throughout Europe and Australia I've never had another stinger up the sleeve, had plenty in the visor, around the neckline and under the helmet, its what we have to live with.

Maybe these stingers up the sleeve are a non European thing  :084:

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Re: Glove cuffs, under or over
« Reply #17 on: 25 August, 2020, 07:54:14 PM »
The police from the 1950s onward through the 1960s had longer and longer cuffs to keep the rain out until they almost reached their elbows before changing to cuffs under the jacket - they have never returned to the monster cuffs 
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Re: Glove cuffs, under or over
« Reply #18 on: 25 August, 2020, 09:23:59 PM »
Are the Police not fair weather riders? Sure you see them out in light rain but anything more and their heading off back to base.

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Re: Glove cuffs, under or over
« Reply #19 on: 26 August, 2020, 08:23:48 AM »
I remember back in the '70's when I started riding  the normal style of glove was a gauntlet which nearly came up to my elbow.. My MZ Super 5 had low narrow handlebars so when it rained the wide gauntlet bit acted like a funnel and directed all the rain down my sleeve into the glove. Many was the time I would turn up at work with black hands where the dye had run and stained my hands.