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Re: Stator Suppliers
« Reply #20 on: 25 April, 2020, 08:14:58 AM »
Hi guys,
I found this stator from aliexpress is extremely cheap,
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000382101401.html?spm=2114.search0302.3.155.363042d0Zqjsab&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_0,searchweb201603_0,ppcSwitch_0&algo_pvid=8aed4191-ac55-4e24-aa01-07d8d35a6a6e&algo_expid=8aed4191-ac55-4e24-aa01-07d8d35a6a6e-23
I don't know if quality is acceptable, I wouldn't bet, just in case you stay from stator on the trip to have a spare
Has anyone tried?
what is your opinion?
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Re: Stator Suppliers
« Reply #21 on: 25 April, 2020, 09:12:45 AM »
It seems wherever in Europe you buy a stator it comes with a 'Made in China' label so it may be an idea to source a locally stocked unbranded Made in China stator. With the choice of stators available there is no need to be fettling with connectors and wires either, check the stator you're ordering has the correct connector, length of harness and is ready to fit.

If your idea is to carry a spare stator just in case the stator fails that is a little excessive. Stators may appear to suddenly fail but the truth is they don't, its a gradual process. A better idea would be to regularly check the charging system and note the stators output then you can compare the results from test to test as time passes. If the stator is going to fail you'll know it before it does. I have test my ElectorSport 'Made in China' stator supplied by Busters (M&P) of Swansea in Wales at every service interval (4,000 miles) and it has been giving out a fairly healthy 14.2v at 5,000 RPM since I fitted it in June 2017.

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Re: Stator Suppliers
« Reply #22 on: 25 April, 2020, 09:30:41 AM »
I am the first owner, I have never had a problem with the stator or the electrical circuit, I have 60k km but limited use in recent years. Mine is without abs, maybe that's one reason I haven't had a problem so far.
Those of you who had problems with the stator and finally changed, have the intuition how that it responds, I do not have. However, I agree with your post that you should check beyond the voltmeter installed on it.
however, the price is tempting
you take it and forget it in a drawer and if necessary you install it
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Re: Stator Suppliers
« Reply #23 on: 25 April, 2020, 10:23:52 AM »
Just don't forget which draw left it in  :087:

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Re: Stator Suppliers
« Reply #24 on: 25 April, 2020, 12:22:01 PM »
*Originally Posted by Art [+]
Just don't forget which draw left it in  :087:
:008: :008: it can happen
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Re: Stator Suppliers
« Reply #25 on: 25 April, 2020, 12:25:50 PM »
I too bought a stator and regulator as a spare, after a friend's tale of being stranded while on vacation, had to tow to a Honda dealer and pay some very significant $$$ to replace them.  Stator had fried, and I had read that a design flaw (there was a recall)/insufficient oil cooling may be a factor.  Well known Canadian supplier for these things, I ordered the kit and yes, Made In China.  So, I expect there's a big stator plant in China somewhere.....
https://www.rmstator.com/en_ca/products/kit-rm01078-rms020-102340-rms900-106195

I recently bought a VFR800, also known for charging issues, but not so much stator issues.  It all starts with a meltdown of the connectors between the stator and the regulator... older tech regulator (not sure if the CBF has a mofset reg, but may) where excess current is shunted to ground.  What they do is upgrade to a Shindengen mofset regulator of much larger capacity and the same one is used on recent year Yamaha's (FJ09, FJR).  Methinks this just takes a bit  more load off the stator.  I'm intimately familiar with FJR's, and they have never had an issue.  So I installed a used FJ-09 regulator on the VFR along with modern connectors.

I believe the mofsets will allow a little higher charging voltage at perhaps a lower rpm as well, 5000 rpm voltage should peak out around 14.5V, but I find 2000 rpm voltage is very similar.  On a CBF, I think as a general practice, if you're keeping the revs up around 3500 plus, there is better oil circulation on the stator to help dissipate heat.  Perhaps once a year, check your stator/reg connections to ensure they are clean... even sparingly lube with a carbon based contact paste, careful not to use excess so there is no cross-flow of electrons to an adjacent terminal.. only takes a wee bit (Ox-Gard or Noalox).  I wouldn't advise dielectric grease in this case, you want contact not insolation.
« Last Edit: 25 April, 2020, 12:27:28 PM by raYzerman »

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Re: Stator Suppliers
« Reply #26 on: 25 April, 2020, 01:01:45 PM »
What is wrong with testing and noting the charging system output at the 4,000 mile service intervals?

Yes, the CBF has a MOSFET rectifier
« Last Edit: 25 April, 2020, 01:02:26 PM by Art »

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Re: Stator Suppliers
« Reply #27 on: 25 April, 2020, 01:24:33 PM »
Perfectly good advice, Art.  Nothing wrong with that at all.
Thanks for the clarification on having a mofset, I feel better now.
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Re: Stator Suppliers
« Reply #28 on: 25 April, 2020, 02:13:05 PM »
If any one is wanting a UK manufactured stator I bought mine here.
https://www.electrexworld.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=cbf1000&PN=G112%2ehtml#SID=200.
and
https://www.electrexworld.co.uk/acatalog/About_Us.html
Fitted it a few years ago with no problems. (Not saying they are any better than the Chinese ones as I have not been able to compare). Unfortunately they are closed at the moment due to Covid 19 but the site does have a lot of technical information.
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