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Re: What bike would I replace the biffer with next?
« Reply #40 on: 31 August, 2019, 12:18:52 PM »
This morning I test rode a 1250RS thanks to the guys at Dick Lovett BMW (not a made up name).
I rode the bike for an hour and a bit. Its very comfy at speed the engine pulls well nearly all the time except, strangely, at very low revs where you have to give it unexpected amounts of throttle to wake it up. Of course it vibrates like a twin.
Riding position is sporty, leant forward. At times it seemed perfect but I did get some wrist ache and that warm feeling between the shoulder blades after a while. I could probably live with it unmodified if I was only doing short sporty weekend rides. For touring I'd want to make it all-day comfortable and that means either risers or possibly fitting the bars and clamp from a 1250R (I believe they would bolt straight on). Unfortunately the stealership did not have a 1250R available for comparison on the day. My legs were perfect though and the saddle was fine.
Windscreen is Ok in the lower position in that it is out of the way and doesn't cause turbulence issues at the helmet. In the higher position its OK too, you get more protection and lots more noise. You can adjust it on the move! Its OK by me in that its not actually bad.
The demo bike was the top model with all bells and whistles. The dynamic suspension adjustment is a fine thing, going from soft and comfy in road mode to firm and sporty in dynamic mode. At £750 as an option its very tempting, but will it go expensively wrong at some point?
Quickshifter is, frankly, rubbish. Cruise control is good. These are £400 each as an option.
The TFT display on these models is very good, clear and readable even for my dodgy old eyes.
Overall its very tempting, but once I've specced it up on the configuratorizer its banging on the door of £14k.
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Re: What bike would I replace the biffer with next?
« Reply #41 on: 08 September, 2019, 01:13:54 PM »
I looked at the Honda UK web site. For all of touring and sport touring they offer precisely two models, the VFR800 and the Goldwing.  :027:
What is going on? I have to assume they have more models waiting in the wings for announcement in the coming months. Either that or they are abandoning the UK bike market, which for me is unbelievable.
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Re: What bike would I replace the biffer with next?
« Reply #42 on: 09 September, 2019, 02:22:05 PM »
 :460:

I feel my interest (tech + looks) is also underserved. Too bad
VFR800 should have been evolved into VFR1k or something.
(But not like vfr1200 pls.)

I keep thinking how refreshing this bike was, designer wise especially, as if they create a soul


Todays bike designers  :161:
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Re: What bike would I replace the biffer with next?
« Reply #43 on: 03 October, 2019, 02:15:20 PM »
Anyone driven a ZZR1400 aka ZX14 kwaka?
There is an opportunity 2nd hand and I am tempted and drooling.
But the weight is huge  :084:

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Re: What bike would I replace the biffer with next?
« Reply #44 on: 03 October, 2019, 02:34:16 PM »
*Originally Posted by J-man [+]
Anyone driven a ZZR1400 aka ZX14 kwaka?
There is an opportunity 2nd hand and I am tempted and drooling.
But the weight is huge  :084:
The centre of gravity on these is very low down so I think you will find it doesn't feel as weighty as you may think.
I rode the zzr and the sx and went for the sx in the end, as I felt it was a bit more versitile. Been a fantastic, fun, bike, absolutely reliable, (40k miles) and once the seat and screen have been replaced a pretty competent tourer. (Greece this year). Good value too, compared to the Ducati, BMW and KTM competition.
It is going to be difficult to replace, as I really don't want to take a drop in bhp, which does come in handy occasionally.

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Re: What bike would I replace the biffer with next?
« Reply #45 on: 03 October, 2019, 08:04:32 PM »
Thx Brickit, yeah zx14 is more of a niche bike, ideal to tackle a striking mid life crisis  :164:
By the way, the term 'mid life crisis' is invented by women, for men see not much of a crisis actually, rather the opposite  :031:

I've heard the sub frame of zzr14 is not strong enough for panniers + second person on the back. Picked that up on a youtube, fwiw.
Not my intention immediately though.
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Re: What bike would I replace the biffer with next?
« Reply #46 on: 03 October, 2019, 08:15:46 PM »

Thx Brickit, yeah zx14 is more of a niche bike, ideal to tackle a striking mid life crisis  :164:
By the way, the term 'mid life crisis' is invented by women, for men see not much of a crisis actually, rather the opposite  :031:

I've heard the sub frame of zzr14 is not strong enough for panniers + second person on the back. Picked that up on a youtube, fwiw.
Not my intention immediately though. But dunno what future brings you know. If it's true it could be an argument.

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Re: What bike would I replace the biffer with next?
« Reply #47 on: 07 October, 2019, 08:51:09 AM »
New 1250RS is on order  :138: :188: :232: :112: :125: :110:
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Re: What bike would I replace the biffer with next?
« Reply #48 on: 07 October, 2019, 04:21:12 PM »
*Originally Posted by Ali-bear [+]
New 1250RS is on order  :138: :188: :232: :112: :125: :110:
Given the poor choice nowadays of bikes in that segment, it's understandable.
I sat on that zzr14 and felt not at ease. I expected some weight on wrists but it was more than anticipated. Didn't drive it though.

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Re: What bike would I replace the biffer with next?
« Reply #49 on: 07 October, 2019, 04:44:29 PM »
The big-14 is almost a two-wheeled missile. Long, low and very, very fast.
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