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Offline davyayr

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Re: What is the best replacement stator?
« Reply #90 on: 19 August, 2018, 08:50:36 PM »
*Originally Posted by Jumbo [+]

How to check your stator;
You can do this without removing the stator.
Disconnect the 3P connector, the one with the 3 yellow wires coming off the stator.
Measure the resistance across each pin in pairs.
In other word, measure across 1st to 2nd pin, 1st to 3rd pin, and then 2nd to 3rd pin in turn.
You should read between 0.1 and 1.0 Ω on each.
A failed/burnt out coil may show infinite Ωs  / open circuit..... or all shorted together giving zero Ωs

Then check the resistance between each of the 3 pins and the bike earth/frame.
This should be infinite  Ωs.  As in no continuity.   i.e. an open circuit.
Typically, with a failing stator, you may find a short to ground from one or all of the three yellow wires.


Jumbo

Well using the above test procedure, I got a reading on the bit in red. Instead of zero, I got 0.1 - 0.2 Ωs on all the wires to earth. So I assume this means stator is gubbed.

She's going to dealers tomorrow for their confirmation, just to be sure, but I'm not hopeful..

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Re: What is the best replacement stator?
« Reply #91 on: 20 August, 2018, 01:19:13 PM »
*Originally Posted by davyayr [+]
... CBF1000 FA 2011 Mk1
No, you've contradicted which bike you have. You can't own an FA mkI.

Either way (but you need to know what you have got when asking for help), as it is a 2011 you are on the edge of getting an extended warranty replacement - ask about that and see what Mr H say.  You may be fortunate.  If it is a mkI as about the modified flywheel.  Read up on this forum and go forewarned, find out what is what.

Short each to earth, yes - it is hard for run of the mill multimeters (and leads) to differentiate 0, 0.1Ω and 0.2Ω, so any phase winding, anywhere short to frame may look like that.  Note also, as the 3ph cable leaves the stator cover (earthed whilst bolted up) if damaged it may show those readings.
* You did check it unplugged ?

I'm guessing a mkI (cbf1000a), a fair few miles (7 yrs), as likely out of warranty extention.  So get them to quote a repair as (any) stator will be cheaper (but you need to do it yourself - and have no bike in the meantime).
Only do it right - no bodging please.   Keeper of the failed stator list.   John.

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Re: What is the best replacement stator?
« Reply #92 on: 22 August, 2018, 01:26:33 PM »
*Originally Posted by jm2 [+]
No, you've contradicted which bike you have. You can't own an FA mkI.

Either way (but you need to know what you have got when asking for help), as it is a 2011 you are on the edge of getting an extended warranty replacement - ask about that and see what Mr H say.  You may be fortunate.  If it is a mkI as about the modified flywheel.  Read up on this forum and go forewarned, find out what is what.

Is indeed a CBF 1000A, 29,938 miles, Full Service History etc etc

Dealer has checked the stator and is knackered.

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPiitzOfYScFnZrMzyw3kfHhTY9ssw6ABS9zlY0

I'm in communication with Honda to see if they will cover this given the bike has never had the stator replaced, or at least offer some sort of goodwill gesture.
Not hopeful, but we'll see how it goes..

Cheers all

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Re: What is the best replacement stator?
« Reply #93 on: 22 August, 2018, 09:35:28 PM »
404 on google image but your attached photo is proof.

Worth asking and asking again for a freebie especially as you could do with the upgraded flywheel.





Oh for brain typos - of course my post should have read multi not milli meters.
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Re: What is the best replacement stator?
« Reply #94 on: 30 August, 2018, 09:22:38 PM »
Wee update folks

After some emails back and forth with Honda Customer Services, they have agreed to replaced the stator and flywheel as per the extended warranty that they had in place.

They will pay for the parts (flywheel and stator) and I'll pay for the oil change and labour.

She's due an oil and filter change anyway so I'm happy with that.

Happy days  :001: :001: :001: :031: :046: :046: :031: :031:

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Re: What is the best replacement stator?
« Reply #95 on: 30 August, 2018, 10:00:20 PM »
After a stator has gone pop big time you need an oil and filter change anyway - if if you've only just changed it.

Happy.  I say that is a result, and  a good one at that (always worth asking isn't it).
Cheer up and take your mrs/mistress/best mate/cat out for a drink !!
Later you'll realise ...
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Re: What is the best replacement stator?
« Reply #96 on: 30 August, 2018, 10:14:40 PM »
Definitely a good result jm2, and you're correct. You don't ask, you don't get, as they say

Could not believe the price to replace flywheel and stator retail.

Best part of Ł1K....inc Labour and Oil change  :005: :005: :005: :005: :005:

Should have her back early next week, just in time for days off  :046:.......just need the weather now.. :016:

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Re: What is the best replacement stator?
« Reply #97 on: 31 August, 2018, 10:41:22 AM »
*Originally Posted by davyayr [+]
Wee update folks

After some emails back and forth with Honda Customer Services, they have agreed to replaced the stator and flywheel as per the extended warranty that they had in place.

They will pay for the parts (flywheel and stator) and I'll pay for the oil change and labour.

She's due an oil and filter change anyway so I'm happy with that.

Happy days  :001: :001: :001: :031: :046: :046: :031: :031:

Excuse my ignorance of the fact but was there a recall or anything on the stator and fixed under extended warranty? My bike is a 2012 mk1 with 8k miles. Reading past posts on here, I'm wondering is it inevitable that the stator will go at some stage?

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Re: What is the best replacement stator?
« Reply #98 on: 31 August, 2018, 12:16:09 PM »
Not a recall but Honda will replace stator and flywheel on bikes up to 7 yrs old, but only if dealers confirm the failure.
I was lucky as my bike was 4 months over the 7 yrs but I got a goodwill gesture.
My symptoms started as me thinking battery was knackered as it was the original.
When stator failed it was after a couple of short runs to work and shops.
Charged battery just to get her to dealers. Wouldn’t start again when tech tried.
Quick diag and casing off confirmed it as in my pic.

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Re: What is the best replacement stator?
« Reply #99 on: 31 August, 2018, 12:39:25 PM »
Thanks for the heads up. I guess will just deal with it when or if it happens.

 


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