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Offline fritsh

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HISS RECEIVER PROBLEM
on: 24 August, 2012, 12:21:08 PM
Has anybody faced a problem with this part? It seems that there is a malfunction with its wiring and sometimes it doesn't receive the signal from the coded key. It definitely needs replacement. Unfortunately according to my mechanic it costs 120 Euro :087:
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Re: HISS RECEIVER PROBLEM
Reply #1 on: 24 August, 2012, 02:25:20 PM
Never known it to happen and I've been using HISS machines since 1999.

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Re: HISS RECEIVER PROBLEM
Reply #2 on: 25 August, 2012, 09:04:44 PM
Perhaps it's the key - have you tried the spare?
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Re: HISS RECEIVER PROBLEM
Reply #3 on: 26 August, 2012, 06:11:49 PM
It's not the key. The problem was caused by friction when the handlebar is turned and its wiring (four thin wires with a thin plastic shield) touches a metal part under it. I saw the new part and its shield is much stronger, obviously big H realized its weakness and improved it. Too late for me though.... I think it's a damage which I could have avoided by securing the wiring better, if I knew the consequences. 90.000 Km, a lot of them in town, mean much thermal energy (caused by friction) which destroyed part of the plastic shield and one (or more) of the thin wires. A remedy could be to cut all the wires near the reader and replace them but there would be too many connections which could probably affect the coded signal. A risk that it's not wise to take.
I''ll try to contact a British Honda dealer and see if their price is more reasonable (which I doubt).
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Re: HISS RECEIVER PROBLEM
Reply #4 on: 26 August, 2012, 09:21:54 PM
*Originally Posted by fritsh [+]
It's not the key. The problem was caused by friction when the handlebar is turned and its wiring (four thin wires with a thin plastic shield) touches a metal part under it. I show the new part and its shield is much stronger, obviously big H realized its weakness and improved it. Too late for me though.... I think its a damage which I could have avoided by securing the wiring better, if I knew the consequences. 90.000 Km, a lot of them in town, mean much thermal energy (caused by friction) which destroyed part of the plastic shield and one (or more) of the thin wires. A remedy could be to cut all the wires near the reader and replaced them but there would be too many connections which could probably affect the coded signal. A risk that it's not wise to take.
I''ll try to contact a British Honda dealer and see if their price is more reasonable (which I doubt).

I can't see replacing the damaged part of the wiring as a problem, so long as the connections are good, soldering being the best method so far as I am concerned. Am I missing something? :087:
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Re: HISS RECEIVER PROBLEM
Reply #5 on: 19 October, 2012, 12:23:51 PM
I've just had this fault on my 2007 CBF1000A7 with 20,000 miles on the clock. The bike would cut out at low revs when the handle bars were turned. I took it to my Honda dealer who had not come across the fault before. They fitted a new HISS ariel unit which is around the ignition barrel and it's now fine. The cost including 2 hours labour ( the fault was difficult to trace ) was 314. This fault is potentially very dangerous as the bike could fall over when the engine cut out on low speed corners.

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Re: HISS RECEIVER PROBLEM
Reply #6 on: 19 October, 2012, 08:18:56 PM
*Originally Posted by Blade [+]
I've just had this fault on my 2007 CBF1000A7 with 20,000 miles on the clock. The bike would cut out at low revs when the handle bars were turned. I took it to my Honda dealer who had not come across the fault before. They fitted a new HISS ariel unit which is around the ignition barrel and it's now fine. The cost including 2 hours labour ( the fault was difficult to trace ) was 314. This fault is potentially very dangerous as the bike could fall over when the engine cut out on low speed corners.

I can't understand that, can anybody explain?  It sounds far more likely to be a frayed electrical cable - but then I always look for the cheapest solution first!
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Re: HISS RECEIVER PROBLEM
Reply #7 on: 19 October, 2012, 10:00:56 PM
Could be a frayed cable boss. I assume the HISS receiver (around the ignition barrel) attaches (via the wiring loom) to the ECU which controls whether or not the bike is on. If that cable is iffy, then the problem would manifest as described.
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Re: HISS RECEIVER PROBLEM
Reply #8 on: 22 October, 2012, 01:37:13 PM
Fritsh and Blade - could you please post pics or in other way describe in details where this fault appears. It sounds like an important inspection to make for all members on this forum.

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Re: HISS RECEIVER PROBLEM
Reply #9 on: 23 October, 2012, 08:27:22 PM
*Originally Posted by FireBladerDk [+]
Fritsh and Blade - could you please post pics or in other way describe in details where this fault appears. It sounds like an important inspection to make for all members on this forum.

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Agreed, well said technoman (Fred), this is something we could all do with knowing a few more specifics on. 
 
When I fitted a new nosecone stay I spent absolutely ages making sure I followed the exact wiring routes as specified in the diagramatics in the service manual but it was one mother of a job to follow through accurately.  I think I am pretty OK but it would be nice to see some pics of the offending area and a fuller description.  Go for it F & B.
 
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